Subject: general-digest V2 #93
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general-digest         Tuesday, August 3 1999         Volume 02 : Number 093

In this issue:

    Re: New pricing
    Netwinder Office Server
    Re: Netwinder Office Server
    Re: Netwinder Office Server
    Re: IDE disk
    Re: IDE disk
    Re: What ever happened to WordPerfect?
    Re: What ever happened to WordPerfect?
    Re: New pricing
    Linux World Expo?
    ftp site temporarily offline
    Re: ftp site temporarily offline

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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:59:52 -0400
From: Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: New pricing

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> Gee, there might have been new pricing last week but as of today,
> there's no www.rebel.com. Period. :(

Internic has lost the registration... very unfortunately timed, in
fact.  The site is up and can be reached at http://207.245.35.211 though
there are probably some links that will break since they refer to
www.rebel.com and not the number.  Apoligies to all, but there's nothing
we can do here except complain (which of course is being done).

With regards to pricing, I brought the discrepancy to the attention of
the marketing/sales people but have yet to hear back a concrete answer
from them.  A while ago they were told to "not" participate in
netwinder.org unless specifically asked, and they probably
underestimated the speed with which you folks discover new stuff on our
site.  My guess is that the DM prices are also reduced, but I really
don't know.

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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:11:32 -0400
From: Matthew Keller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Netwinder Office Server

Is says:

NetWinder Linux Distribution featuring:
Linux® 2.2.9 operating system; Apache 1.3.6,
HTTP/1.1 compliant; Samba; AppleShare®

	Which version of Samba is shipping with the OS? Also, what is
"AppleShare"? I know that it is used for Mac-networks but what PACKAGE
is it? Netatalk? CAP? other?
	Also, I know it was mentioned that DM owners would be offered a CD with
the OS images for cost of shipping- Who would we contact for this? 

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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:20:36 -0400
From: Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Netwinder Office Server

Matthew Keller wrote:

>         Which version of Samba is shipping with the OS? Also, what is
> "AppleShare"? I know that it is used for Mac-networks but what PACKAGE
> is it? Netatalk? CAP? other?

Samba is currently 2.0.3-8, but due to recent security updates we'll try
and rebuild the latest one instead.  For apple it us using
netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.1.3 (all built from the RPM's)... Hope this suits
everybody?!?

>         Also, I know it was mentioned that DM owners would be offered a CD with
> the OS images for cost of shipping- Who would we contact for this?

At this point I'd recommend waiting as you will otherwise get a very
puzzled salesperson at the other end of the line.  Once they figure out
exactly how the upgrade will be handled, a message will go up on
www.rebel.com (which will hopefully come back to life soon) and we'll
make an announcement about it here.  It will probably be another week or
two I'd guess.

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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:45:11 -0400
From: Matthew Keller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Netwinder Office Server

Ralph Siemsen wrote:
> Samba is currently 2.0.3-8, but due to recent security updates we'll try
> and rebuild the latest one instead.  For apple it us using
> netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.1.3 (all built from the RPM's)... Hope this suits
> everybody?!?

	Super- We're running Samba 2.0.5a (latest stable (the 'a' is not
'alpha', it's a revision)) and netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.1.3 all of our
cross-platform servers, so this will fit right in. Thanks for the heads
up! :)

> At this point I'd recommend waiting as you will otherwise get a very
> puzzled salesperson at the other end of the line.  Once they figure out
> exactly how the upgrade will be handled, a message will go up on
> www.rebel.com (which will hopefully come back to life soon) and we'll
> make an announcement about it here.  It will probably be another week or
> two I'd guess.

	Ok... Thanks. :)

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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:02:42 +0100
From: John Adams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: IDE disk

I am about to upgrade a disk image from a earlier machine and I shall
take my early netwinder disk put it with a 2.5" to 3.5" disk converter
and mount it on an
X86 red hat machine then I shall put another 2.5" converter on a new
netwinder disk can replace the old files with a new image.

It will be interesting to see if my old BIOs will boot the new image
then I can update the BIOs

So you can use the tosh disk in an x86 pc if you have a £12 converter
thing.

Jamie Guinan wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have the following disk that came in my NetWinder DM:
>
> $ /sbin/dmesg | grep -i toshiba
> hda: TOSHIBA MK3205MAV, 3102MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=6304/16/63, DMA
>
> This is a standard IDE disk, right?  So, I could use it
> in a typical x86 PC?
>
> -Jamie
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:17:28 -0400
From: Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: IDE disk

John,

If your machine currently has 1.3 firmware then you should upgrade to
2.x first, otherwise you'll have trouble.  The 1.3 versions of firmware
expected a particular partitioning scheme with the kernel on the first
partition, the root filesystem on the second, etc.  The new firmware
doesn't have this limitation, and it can be programmed at will.  If you
don't update the firmware first, the you have to match the disk layout
exactly.  Have a look at the disk-update-howto on the projects page if
you have any doubts.

- -Ralph.

John Adams wrote:
> 
> I am about to upgrade a disk image from a earlier machine and I shall
> take my early netwinder disk put it with a 2.5" to 3.5" disk converter
> and mount it on an
> X86 red hat machine then I shall put another 2.5" converter on a new
> netwinder disk can replace the old files with a new image.
> 
> It will be interesting to see if my old BIOs will boot the new image
> then I can update the BIOs
> 
> So you can use the tosh disk in an x86 pc if you have a £12 converter
> thing.

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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:56:26 -0700
From: "Eric A. Perlman" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: What ever happened to WordPerfect?

Apparently not.  I was told 6 months ago that it would come out "any day",
but that was before Corel Computer was sold.  I was forced to learn LaTeX
for my essay's last quarter...

- -eric

Jesse wrote:

> What ever happened to the version of WordPerfect 8 for the Netwinder
> when hcc bought the Netwinder from Corel? Did that ever see the light of
> day?
>
> Jesse

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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:39:18 -0400
From: "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: What ever happened to WordPerfect?

Jesse wrote:
> What ever happened to the version of WordPerfect 8 for the Netwinder
> when hcc bought the Netwinder from Corel? Did that ever see the light of
> day?

I don'r think an Corel-ians are following these groups.  I suggest
you contact corel directly...last I heard there was a beta, and that
was some time ago.

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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:01:05 -0400
From: Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: New pricing

Mark Lord wrote:
> 
> I notice the new OfficeServer is $150 cheaper than a DM,
> and includes double the hard disk space as well.
> 
> Any other hardware differences, or are the other prices
> under review as well?

After speaking with a few people, I have learned that the OfficeServer
will be a stripped-down version (ie. partially depopulated boards). 
This accounts for the price difference at least somewhat.  Pricing for
DM's will probably move a bit also, or they will get the same drive
options as for the OfficeServer.

Note to the earlybirds, I've also heard that the first run of
OfficeServers will be ordinary (fully loaded) units sold at the
advertised price, possibly sans some of the connectors on the back
panel.  Apparently its easier to change back panels than motherboards. 
But the OfficeServer officially includes only ethernet, serial,
parallel, monitor and keyboard... ie. no sound and no capture. :)

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 22:33:38 -0700
From: [email-masked] (Arne W. Flones)
Subject: Linux World Expo?

I'll be going to Linux World Expo.

I don't see Rebel.com on the exhibitor list.  Is somebody from
Rebel.com going to attend?  If so, would it be possible to
arrange it so we can get together.

If so, is there any reason I should bring my Winder with me.

Thanks.

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Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 08:52:40 -0400
From: Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]>
Subject: ftp site temporarily offline

Sorry for the inconvenience, our filer has filled up to 100% and isn't
freeing old files for some reason (anyone have experience with
NetApps?)  This means the FTP site and the user home directories are
temporarily unavailable.  We're doing our best to bring it back online
as soon as possible.  Bear with us :)
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Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 11:08:03 -0400
From: Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: ftp site temporarily offline

We're back in business now.  Enjoy :)
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