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general-digest          Friday, May 28 1999          Volume 02 : Number 078

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    Re: [Fwd: questions about the RM]
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:39:46 -0400
From: Michael Burrows <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: questions about the RM]

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Jamie
Yours questions finally made it to me, I will try to answer them the best I
can.
Mike

"Alejandra (Ali) Fuentes" wrote:

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>
> Subject: questions about the RM
> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:52:42 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jamie Heilman <[email-masked]>
> Reply-To: [email-masked]
> To: [email-masked]
>
> Hi,
>   I'm considering buying a netwinder RM for personal use (home file/web
> server plus firewall), the modest power consumption tickled my interest,
> and the rack mountable form + dual ethernet ports nearly sold me on it
> sight unseen.  But before I go nuts I want to know a few things about the
> RM version of the netwinder.  I asked [email-masked] - that was a week
> ago and they still haven't responded.  I figured maybe somebody here would
> know the answer to a few of my questions.
>
> - I know the RM comes with a external SCSI connection, is the internal
>   disk still IDE?  (curiosity more than anything)

The SCSI option is only available for rack mount, and the disk is still IDE.

>
>
> - Is the 100Mbit ethernet port still powered by a Dec Tulip chip?
>   (I seem to recall hearing that the Tulip was being phased out of common
>   use because of cheaper NICs - shame as its been one of my favorites.)

We are still using the Dec Tulip chip.

>
>
> - I've heard that netwinders can support 128MB of RAM.  You only list 32
>   and 64 configurations, do you sell higher, if so at what cost?
>   (Ok, after reading the majordomo archives I think I know the answer to
>   this one but as I originally posed this to a sales dept. I figured
>   dropping a subtle hint that 128MB configurations would be appreciated
>   couldn't hurt.)

We are reviewing the pricing for 128MB, the cost is way too high to make it
attractive.  As soon as pricing gets real we will introduce it. Till then 64Mb
is it.

>
>
> - If the DM is still available, is it avilable in rackmount form?
>   (That really is a sales question, I wouldn't expect developers to know
>   it.)

The DM is alive and well and can be purchased direct as a Rackmount.

Jamie , again sorry for the delay hope this answers your questions.  One
point...if you are using NetWinder at home it would be cheaper staying with
the desktop rather than the rackmount. You will still have all the same
connections etc.
Regards
Mike

>

>
>
> Thanks
>
> Jamie Heilman      [email-masked]      http://www.wcug.wwu.edu/~jamie/
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>   Product Manager
>   NetWinder Division
>
>   Alejandra (Ali) Fuentes
>   Product Manager           <[email-masked]>
>   NetWinder Division
>   150 Isabella, Suite 1000
>   Ottawa
>   Ontario
>   K1S 1V7
>   Canada
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>   First Name  Alejandra
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Jamie
<br>Yours questions finally made it to me, I will try to answer them the
best I can.
<br>Mike
<p>"Alejandra (Ali) Fuentes" wrote:
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<p>Subject: questions about the RM
<br>Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:52:42 -0700 (PDT)
<br>From: Jamie Heilman &lt;[email-masked]>
<br>Reply-To: [email-masked]
<br>To: [email-masked]
<p>Hi,
<br>&nbsp; I'm considering buying a netwinder RM for personal use (home
file/web
<br>server plus firewall), the modest power consumption tickled my interest,
<br>and the rack mountable form + dual ethernet ports nearly sold me on
it
<br>sight unseen.&nbsp; But before I go nuts I want to know a few things
about the
<br>RM version of the netwinder.&nbsp; I asked [email-masked] - that was
a week
<br>ago and they still haven't responded.&nbsp; I figured maybe somebody
here would
<br>know the answer to a few of my questions.
<p>- I know the RM comes with a external SCSI connection, is the internal
<br>&nbsp; disk still IDE?&nbsp; (curiosity more than anything)</blockquote>
<font color="#3333FF">The SCSI option is only available for rack mount,
and the disk is still IDE.</font>
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;
<p>- Is the 100Mbit ethernet port still powered by a Dec Tulip chip?
<br>&nbsp; (I seem to recall hearing that the Tulip was being phased out
of common
<br>&nbsp; use because of cheaper NICs - shame as its been one of my favorites.)</blockquote>
<font color="#3333FF">We are still using the Dec Tulip chip.</font>
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;
<p>- I've heard that netwinders can support 128MB of RAM.&nbsp; You only
list 32
<br>&nbsp; and 64 configurations, do you sell higher, if so at what cost?
<br>&nbsp; (Ok, after reading the majordomo archives I think I know the
answer to
<br>&nbsp; this one but as I originally posed this to a sales dept. I figured
<br>&nbsp; dropping a subtle hint that 128MB configurations would be appreciated
<br>&nbsp; couldn't hurt.)</blockquote>
<font color="#3333FF">We are reviewing the pricing for 128MB, the cost
is way too high to make it attractive.&nbsp; As soon as pricing gets real
we will introduce it. Till then 64Mb is it.</font>
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;
<p>- If the DM is still available, is it avilable in rackmount form?
<br>&nbsp; (That really is a sales question, I wouldn't expect developers
to know
<br>&nbsp; it.)</blockquote>
<font color="#3333FF">The DM is alive and well and can be purchased direct
as a Rackmount.</font><font color="#3333FF"></font>
<p><font color="#3333FF">Jamie , again sorry for the delay hope this answers
your questions.&nbsp; One point...if you are using NetWinder at home it
would be cheaper staying with the desktop rather than the rackmount. You
will still have all the same connections etc.</font>
<br><font color="#3333FF">Regards</font>
<br><font color="#3333FF">Mike</font>
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;</blockquote>

<blockquote TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;
<p>Thanks
<p>Jamie Heilman&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [email-masked]&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<a href="http://www.wcug.wwu.edu/~jamie/">http://www.wcug.wwu.edu/~jamie/</a>
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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<br>&nbsp; [Image]
<br>&nbsp; NetWinder Division
<p>&nbsp; Alejandra (Ali) Fuentes
<br>&nbsp; Product Manager&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;[email-masked]>
<br>&nbsp; [Image]
<br>&nbsp; NetWinder Division
<br>&nbsp; 150 Isabella, Suite 1000
<br>&nbsp; Ottawa
<br>&nbsp; Ontario
<br>&nbsp; K1S 1V7
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<br>&nbsp; Additional Information:
<br>&nbsp; Last Name&nbsp;&nbsp; Fuentes
<br>&nbsp; First Name&nbsp; Alejandra
<br>&nbsp; Version&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2.1</blockquote>

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<br>150 Isabella, Suite 1000
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:12:25 -0400
From: Scott Bambrough <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: questions about the RM]

Michael Burrows wrote:
> >
> > - Is the 100Mbit ethernet port still powered by a Dec Tulip chip?
> >   (I seem to recall hearing that the Tulip was being phased out of common
> >   use because of cheaper NICs - shame as its been one of my favorites.)
> 
> We are still using the Dec Tulip chip.

Sorry Mike, this is not correct.  The SCSI daughtercard uses a different chip
(SYMBIOS I think) that supports both SCSI and 100 BaseT.  The DEC Tulip is
still in use on the original daughtercard.

Scott
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:06:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jamie Heilman <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: questions about the RM]

>point...if you are using NetWinder at home it would be cheaper staying
>with the desktop rather than the rackmount. You will still have all the
>same connections etc. 

Personally, I won't buy a non-scsi machine for the role of 'server'. 
Besides I like the idea of rackmount machines.  Now I just need 2 things: 
1) For Rebel to actually sell the scsi RM
2) A rack that won't send my girlfriend into hysterics

#1 is easy enough, I just have to be patient, #2 though... does anyone
know of a source for small 19" free-standing racks?  Say 10U or less...
Preferably something that won't bankrupt me, can sit stablely on carpet,
and has a chance at looking classy if properly decorated.  I was thinking
about a rack/case like guitarists use to stow their dsp gear while giging,
but those typically don't have the best cooling and are pretty built up
for shock resistance so the roadies can be violent; I don't need that
extra bulk.  Maybe something that could double as a monitor stand...

Jamie Heilman      [email-masked]      http://www.wcug.wwu.edu/~jamie/
"Paranoia is a disease unto itself, and may I add, the person standing
next to you may not be who they appear to be, so take precaution."
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:12:37 -0600
From: Richmond Raymond <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [Fwd: questions about the RM]

Talk to your local machine shop, they can probably do it for ya.  I have one
here locally that builds 19" racks and I had them doa custom one for my home
theatre system.  Pretty cheaply to.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Jamie Heilman [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 4:06 PM
To: Michael Burrows
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Fwd: questions about the RM]

>point...if you are using NetWinder at home it would be cheaper staying
>with the desktop rather than the rackmount. You will still have all the
>same connections etc. 

Personally, I won't buy a non-scsi machine for the role of 'server'. 
Besides I like the idea of rackmount machines.  Now I just need 2 things: 
1) For Rebel to actually sell the scsi RM
2) A rack that won't send my girlfriend into hysterics

#1 is easy enough, I just have to be patient, #2 though... does anyone
know of a source for small 19" free-standing racks?  Say 10U or less...
Preferably something that won't bankrupt me, can sit stablely on carpet,
and has a chance at looking classy if properly decorated.  I was thinking
about a rack/case like guitarists use to stow their dsp gear while giging,
but those typically don't have the best cooling and are pretty built up
for shock resistance so the roadies can be violent; I don't need that
extra bulk.  Maybe something that could double as a monitor stand...

Jamie Heilman      [email-masked]      http://www.wcug.wwu.edu/~jamie/
"Paranoia is a disease unto itself, and may I add, the person standing
next to you may not be who they appear to be, so take precaution."
						-Sathington Willoughby

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 00:57:29 +0200
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Subject: Re: test

1 .. 2... 3 ... testing?

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