Subject: devel-digest V2 #232
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devel-digest         Saturday, October 9 1999         Volume 02 : Number 232

In this issue:

    Re: We Need Your Help
    DM 15 and sound
    Re: DM 15 and sound
    Re: DM 15 and sound
    Re: DM 15 and sound
    Re: DM 15 and sound
    Re: DM 15 and sound
    Re: DM 15 and sound
    Re: DM 15 and sound
    Something lacking in XFree86-devel-3.3.3.1-36nw3
    Re: Something lacking in XFree86-devel-3.3.3.1-36nw3
    Re: We Need Your Help
    Re: Something lacking in XFree86-devel-3.3.3.1-36nw3
    Re: We Need Your Help
    Re: DM 15 and sound
    therm.h
    Re: therm.h 
    Re: therm.h
    Re: We Need Your Help
    Re: We Need Your Help
    Re: DM 15 and sound
    Re: DM 15 and sound
    Re: DM 15 and sound
    Re: Something lacking in XFree86-devel-3.3.3.1-36nw3
    jdk 118 works great on pre-disk15
    Re: DM 15 and sound
    Re: DM 15 and sound
    in.tftpd and tv.o are broken in dm-3.0-15-public2
    Re: in.tftpd and tv.o are broken in dm-3.0-15-public2
    Re: in.tftpd and tv.o are broken in dm-3.0-15-public2
    Re: We Need Your Help
    Can't compile kernel in DM15

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:11:46 -0400
From: "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: We Need Your Help

"Andrew E. Mileski" wrote:
> 
> I've built a compressed base image tarball (34,999,027 bytes) and put
> it in ftp://netwinder.org/pub/unofficial/base-3.0-15-public1.tar.gz
> It expands to about 100 MB (roughly 1/10 of a full DM image).

I've added authconfig, kbdconfig, timeconfig, and newt (they all use it)
to the base image list (base.list).  I figure they might come in handy.
I've also removed pamconfig from the list, as it is obsolete.

The RPMS are all available from my home directory
  ftp://netwinder.org/devteam/andrewm/redhat/RPMS/
or via the symlink
  ftp://netwinder.org/pub/netwinder/experimental/RPMS/
for those actually using the base image.

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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 11:44:04 +0200
From: Jan Rinze <[email-masked]>
Subject: DM 15 and sound

I have the DM 3.0- 15 build up and running.

There seems to be a problem with sound,
no sound...

I did 'modprobe waveartist' to make sure all modules are loaded.

This does not make any difference.

another thing :
Some old DM 12 programs only seem to run if there is a link in
/usr/lib/ld.so.1 which points to the dynamic linker in /lib

(maybe my compiler has been offset wrongly.. )

Jan Rinze.

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Date: 1 Oct 1999 15:41:56 GMT
From: Rod Stewart <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: DM 15 and sound

Jan Rinze <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I have the DM 3.0- 15 build up and running.

> another thing :
> Some old DM 12 programs only seem to run if there is a link in
> /usr/lib/ld.so.1 which points to the dynamic linker in /lib

> (maybe my compiler has been offset wrongly.. )

These would be old applications, which have not been relinked.  There should
not be any of them in the DM 15 stuff, as everything (well almost) will
have been compiled with GCC 2.95.1, which sets the dyanmic linker correctly.

(As for sound don't know, haven't really tried it in a long time...)

- -Rms

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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 16:52:33 +0000
From: Mike Montour <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: DM 15 and sound

Jan Rinze wrote:
> 
> I have the DM 3.0- 15 build up and running.
> 
> There seems to be a problem with sound,
> no sound...
> 
> I did 'modprobe waveartist' to make sure all modules are loaded. 
> This does not make any difference.

I also installed dm-3.0-15-public2 last night, and have no sound.
The system seems to load the 'soundcore' and 'sound' modules
without difficulty, but when loading 'waveartist' I get an error
to the effect of "can't allocate DMA3". 

Any ideas? I'd really like to get sound working, and I don't
feel like reverting back to a previous disk image. I was up
until 2am fighting to get DM-15 installed. 
 
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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 12:59:13 -0400
From: scottb <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: DM 15 and sound

Try adding a symlink /usr/lib/ld.so.1 and point it at
/lib/ld-linux.so.2.

Scott

Mike Montour wrote:
> 
> Jan Rinze wrote:
> >
> > I have the DM 3.0- 15 build up and running.
> >
> > There seems to be a problem with sound,
> > no sound...
> >
> > I did 'modprobe waveartist' to make sure all modules are loaded.
> > This does not make any difference.
> 
> I also installed dm-3.0-15-public2 last night, and have no sound.
> The system seems to load the 'soundcore' and 'sound' modules
> without difficulty, but when loading 'waveartist' I get an error
> to the effect of "can't allocate DMA3".
> 
> Any ideas? I'd really like to get sound working, and I don't
> feel like reverting back to a previous disk image. I was up
> until 2am fighting to get DM-15 installed.
> 
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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 13:33:29 -0400
From: Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: DM 15 and sound

Mike Montour wrote:

> I also installed dm-3.0-15-public2 last night, and have no sound.
> The system seems to load the 'soundcore' and 'sound' modules
> without difficulty, but when loading 'waveartist' I get an error
> to the effect of "can't allocate DMA3".

Hmm... I've used the same kernel on non-dm-3.0 images and sound has not
been a problem... odd. Can you post the output of /proc/dma please? (and
/proc/cpuinfo while we're at it).
 
> Any ideas? I'd really like to get sound working, and I don't
> feel like reverting back to a previous disk image. I was up
> until 2am fighting to get DM-15 installed.

You can try reverting the kernel to 2.2.9-3, that should make sound
work... but you'll get some strange faults with the PC=bad address
value.  In 2.2.12 the same condition gets trapped and ignored (with a
message "Buggy Processor" printed to the screen / syslog).

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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 17:39:23 +0000
From: Mike Montour <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: DM 15 and sound

scottb wrote:
> 
> Try adding a symlink /usr/lib/ld.so.1 and point it at
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2.

I'll try this when I get home, but why would this work?
Kernel modules aren't dynamically linked to anything,
are they? The tools (modprobe, etc) seem to work fine
on other modules. 

Does anyone have sound working on a DM-15? Would there
be any problems with it working on older hardware? 
(I have a Rev4 (44FF, I think) machine). 

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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 13:45:09 -0400
From: Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: DM 15 and sound

Mike Montour wrote:

> I'll try this when I get home, but why would this work?
> Kernel modules aren't dynamically linked to anything,
> are they? The tools (modprobe, etc) seem to work fine
> on other modules.

Totally unrelated issue.  I think Scott was referring to Jan's second
point, about not being able to run some older binaries.

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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 14:00:15 -0400
From: Woody Suwalski <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: DM 15 and sound

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Ralph Siemsen wrote:
> 
> Mike Montour wrote:
> 
> > I also installed dm-3.0-15-public2 last night, and have no sound.
> > The system seems to load the 'soundcore' and 'sound' modules
> > without difficulty, but when loading 'waveartist' I get an error
> > to the effect of "can't allocate DMA3".
> 
This error can be traced to the arch/arm/kernel/dma-isa.c module, where
kernel does the check if ISA type dma is present. Somehow the compiler
nukes the logical operation, and as a result the system is informed, that
no DMA is present... Kernel needs to be rebuild with the newest compiler,
or the temporary patch to force the "dma_found=1" needs to be inserted into
the source (and recompiled)...

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Date: 1 Oct 1999 20:20:29 GMT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Something lacking in XFree86-devel-3.3.3.1-36nw3

Was trying to build an RPM that built fine on my ppc system and it wouldn't 
build.

Figured out that the problem is in 

	/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/linux.cf

which has all these clauses:

#ifdef i386Architecture
#define OptimizedCDebugFlags	DefaultGcc2i386Opt
#define LinuxMachineDefines	-D__i386__
#define ServerOSDefines		XFree86ServerOSDefines -DDDXTIME -DPART_NET
#define ServerExtraDefines	-DGCCUSESGAS XFree86ServerDefines
#endif /* i386Architecture */

#ifdef AlphaArchitecture
#define OptimizedCDebugFlags	-O2
#define LinuxMachineDefines	-D__alpha__
#define ServerOSDefines		XFree86ServerOSDefines -DDDXTIME -DPART_NET
#define ServerExtraDefines	-DGCCUSESGAS XFree86ServerDefines -D_XSERVER64
#endif /* AlphaArchitecture */

#ifdef ArmArchitecture
#define DefaultCCOptions	-fsigned-char -fomit-frame-pointer
#define OptimizedCDebugFlags	-O3 -fsigned-char -fomit-frame-pointer
#define LinuxMachineDefines	-D__arm__
#define ServerOSDefines		XFree86ServerOSDefines -DDDXTIME -DPART_NET
#define ServerExtraDefines	-DGCCUSESGAS XFree86ServerDefines
#endif /* ArmArchitecture */

#ifdef Mc68020Architecture
#define OptimizedCDebugFlags	-O2
#define LinuxMachineDefines 	-D__mc68000__
#define ServerOSDefines		XFree86ServerOSDefines -DDDXTIME -DPART_NET
#define ServerExtraDefines	-DGCCUSESGAS XFree86ServerDefines
#endif /* Mc68020Architecture */

#ifdef PowerPCArchitecture
#define DefaultCCOptions        -fsigned-char
#define OptimizedCDebugFlags	-O2
#define LinuxMachineDefines 	-D__powerpc__
#define ServerOSDefines		XFree86ServerOSDefines -DDDXTIME -DPART_NET
#define ServerExtraDefines	-DGCCUSESGAS XFree86ServerDefines
#endif /* PowerPCArchitecture */

#ifdef SparcArchitecture
#define OptimizedCDebugFlags	-O2
#define LinuxMachineDefines 	-D__sparc__
#define ServerOSDefines		-DDDXOSINIT
#define ServerExtraDefines	-DGCCUSESGAS XFree86ServerDefines
#define AsVISOption		-Av9a
#ifdef Sparc64Architecture
#define AsOutputArchSize	64
#else
#define AsOutputArchSize	32
#endif
#if LinuxCLibMajorVersion <= 5
/* Why we lack this when everybody else has it? */
#define HasCbrt NO
#endif
#endif /* SparcArchitecture */

and is clearly missing whatever it needs for our good friend armv4l.

Chris

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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 19:21:21 -0400
From: "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Something lacking in XFree86-devel-3.3.3.1-36nw3

[email-masked] wrote:
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> Was trying to build an RPM that built fine on my ppc system and it wouldn't
> build.

It is messed up [I didn't do it!]. Don't bother.  Will be making a new RPM soon.

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Date: 1 Oct 1999 23:35:25 GMT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: We Need Your Help

> From:  "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
> Date:  Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:11:46 -0400
>
> "Andrew E. Mileski" wrote:
> > 
> > I've built a compressed base image tarball (34,999,027 bytes) and put
> > it in ftp://netwinder.org/pub/unofficial/base-3.0-15-public1.tar.gz
> > It expands to about 100 MB (roughly 1/10 of a full DM image).
> 
> I've added authconfig, kbdconfig, timeconfig, and newt (they all use it)
> to the base image list (base.list).  I figure they might come in handy.
> I've also removed pamconfig from the list, as it is obsolete.
> 
> The RPMS are all available from my home directory
>   ftp://netwinder.org/devteam/andrewm/redhat/RPMS/
> or via the symlink
>   ftp://netwinder.org/pub/netwinder/experimental/RPMS/
> for those actually using the base image.

Since I'd downloaded the previous image, I need to add these myself.  From 
your RPM directory, I find conflicting versions of kbdconfig and newt.  What 
versions of all these RPMS should I be trying to install?

Chris

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Date: 1 Oct 1999 23:38:57 GMT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Something lacking in XFree86-devel-3.3.3.1-36nw3

> From:  "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
> Date:  Fri, 01 Oct 1999 19:21:21 -0400
>
> [email-masked] wrote:
> > 
> > Was trying to build an RPM that built fine on my ppc system and it wouldn
> 't
> > build.
> 
> It is messed up [I didn't do it!]. Don't bother.  Will be making a new RPM 
> soon.

I suppose for the same reason, I shouldn't worry about this complaint:

# rpm -U Xconfigurator-4.2.4-1.armv4l.rpm 
error: failed dependencies:
        XFree86 >= 3.3.3.1-43 is needed by Xconfigurator-4.2.4-1

since new RPMs will be arriving soon.

Chris

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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 01:19:28 -0400
From: "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: We Need Your Help

[email-masked] wrote:
> Since I'd downloaded the previous image, I need to add these myself.  From
> your RPM directory, I find conflicting versions of kbdconfig and newt.  What
> versions of all these RPMS should I be trying to install?

The one with the highest version and/or release.

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Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 05:49:47 +0000
From: Mike Montour <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: DM 15 and sound

Ralph Siemsen wrote:

> Mike Montour wrote:
>
> > I also installed dm-3.0-15-public2 last night, and have no sound.
> > The system seems to load the 'soundcore' and 'sound' modules
> > without difficulty, but when loading 'waveartist' I get an error
> > to the effect of "can't allocate DMA3".
>
> Hmm... I've used the same kernel on non-dm-3.0 images and sound has not
> been a problem... odd. Can you post the output of /proc/dma please? (and
> /proc/cpuinfo while we're at it).

Reverting to kernel 2.2.9-3 produced working sound.

On the DM15 kernel (2.2.12-990907), the error is

Oct  2 20:11:04 netwinder kernel: WaveArtist: Can't allocate DMA3

cat /proc/cpuinfo:
Processor       : Intel sa110 rev 3
BogoMips        : 262.14
Hardware        : Rebel-NetWinder
Serial #        : 1680
Revision        : 44ff

cat /proc/dma:
(blank; prints nothing).

I haven't yet tried to re-compile the kernel with Woody's patch.

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Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 00:09:57 -0700
From: "Eric A. Perlman" <[email-masked]>
Subject: therm.h

Hi,

I'm not exactly sure what I have on my netwinder I have right now, some
sort of mix between Build 14 & 15 (ie, not incredibly up to date, but
its still glibc 2.1).

Anyways, I am really missing the use of the fan_ctrl utility to turn off
my fan.

I found the RPM for the old version under /pub/corel somewhere, however
it
doesn't work, for the very obvious reason of libc conflicts. :-)

Now, I also grabbed the SRPM, however I can not compile due to a lacking
therm.h header.  Where does one get this header from?

I'd love to be able to turn the fan off at night like I did last year. 
My roommate this year is picky about noise, so I've been unplugging my
poor netwinder at night.  :-(

 - Eric

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Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 13:43:34 +0100
From: Philip Blundell <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: therm.h 

>Now, I also grabbed the SRPM, however I can not compile due to a lacking
>therm.h header.  Where does one get this header from?

It's part of the kernel source, I believe.

p.

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Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 09:48:18 -0400
From: Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: therm.h

The header file can be found in the 2.0.35 kernel sources... here it is
to save you the trouble of digging it out :

#ifndef _THERM_H
#define _THERM_H

#define TEMPERATURE_MINOR       131

#define CMD_SET_THERMOSTATE     0x53
#define CMD_GET_THERMOSTATE     0x54
#define CMD_GET_STATUS          0x56
#define CMD_GET_TEMPERATURE     0x57 
#define CMD_SET_THERMOSTATE2    0x58
#define CMD_GET_THERMOSTATE2    0x59
#define CMD_GET_TEMPERATURE2    0x5A
#define CMD_GET_FAN             0x5B
#define CMD_SET_FAN             0x5C

#define WRITE_TH        0x01
#define READ_TH         0xA1
#define WRITE_TL        0x02
#define READ_TL         0xA2
#define WRITE_CONFIG    0x0C
#define READ_CONFIG     0xAC
#define START_CONVERT   0xEE
#define READ_TEMPERATURE 0xAA
#define SW_RESET        0xAF    //undocumented command - magic reset

struct  THERM_SETTING
{
int     hi;
int     lo;
};

#endif /* _THERM_H */

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Date: 4 Oct 1999 15:41:57 GMT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: We Need Your Help

> From:  "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
> Date:  Sat, 02 Oct 1999 01:19:28 -0400
>
> [email-masked] wrote:
> > Since I'd downloaded the previous image, I need to add these myself.  Fro
> m
> > your RPM directory, I find conflicting versions of kbdconfig and newt.  W
> hat
> > versions of all these RPMS should I be trying to install?
> 
> The one with the highest version and/or release.

kbdconfig-1.9.2.1-1.armv4l.rpm wants newt-0.40, but you also have a newt-0.50 
in your directory.

Chris

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Date: 4 Oct 1999 16:53:01 GMT
From: Rod Stewart <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: We Need Your Help

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> kbdconfig-1.9.2.1-1.armv4l.rpm wants newt-0.40, but you also have a newt-0.50 
> in your directory.

Use newt-0.50, as it is what everything (should be) linked against.  Get
kdbconfig again, it has been relinked (from Andrew's directory):
  [root@stewart-nw11 RPMS]# rpm -qp --requires kbdconfig-1.9.2.1-1.armv4l.rpm
  ld-linux.so.2  
  libc.so.6  
  libm.so.6  
  libnewt.so.0.50  
  libslang.so.1

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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 12:43:18 +0200
From: "J.R.Peterzon" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: DM 15 and sound

Ralph Siemsen wrote:

> Mike Montour wrote:
>
> > I'll try this when I get home, but why would this work?
> > Kernel modules aren't dynamically linked to anything,
> > are they? The tools (modprobe, etc) seem to work fine
> > on other modules.
>
> Totally unrelated issue.  I think Scott was referring to Jan's second
> point, about not being able to run some older binaries.
>
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That is correct,

I had pointed this out in my own message i think...
anyway, there seem to be som other bugs aswell.

I noticed that mc ( midnight commander ) has some trouble
with the screen handling in a normal ( not under X) console.

It does not crash but the screen gets messed up.

Just too bad the kernel has a problem with sound.
( I just wanted to test x11amp... )

KDE runs fine ( though a bit slow.) under DM 15.

The reason of my message about the lacking link was that I have
been developing software and tried to run it under DM15.
(got it fixed already before I sent the message.)
I just wanted people to know that this could happen if anyone
would use old software.
I have 5 netwinders here and like to copy the software i develop
from one to the other for backup and testing.
I just did not recompile it.

Jan Rinze.

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Date: 5 Oct 1999 13:54:21 GMT
From: Rod Stewart <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: DM 15 and sound

J.R.Peterzon <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I noticed that mc ( midnight commander ) has some trouble
> with the screen handling in a normal ( not under X) console.

> It does not crash but the screen gets messed up.

Try the version of mc in my directory on netwinder.org.  In said directory,
I also have all the GNOME stuff, a working net-tools, and a few other
items.
	ftp.netwinder.org:/users/s/stewart/redhat

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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 16:10:18 +0200
From: "J.R.Peterzon" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: DM 15 and sound

Rod Stewart wrote:

> Try the version of mc in my directory on netwinder.org.  In said directory,
> I also have all the GNOME stuff, a working net-tools, and a few other
> items.
>         ftp.netwinder.org:/users/s/stewart/redhat
>
> -Rms

That's nice.
I see that enlightenment is there aswell !
Can i finally get my desktop looking like the R.H.6.0
I have on my PC...?
( now if only the people of the telephone company
speed up the installation of my new ISDN line...)

So who did a recompile of the kernel and made the
sound working??

Jan Rinze.

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Date: 5 Oct 1999 15:48:26 GMT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Something lacking in XFree86-devel-3.3.3.1-36nw3

> From:  [email-masked]
> Date:  1 Oct 1999 23:38:57 GMT
>
> I suppose for the same reason, I shouldn't worry about this complaint:
> 
> # rpm -U Xconfigurator-4.2.4-1.armv4l.rpm 
> error: failed dependencies:
>         XFree86 >= 3.3.3.1-43 is needed by Xconfigurator-4.2.4-1
> 
> since new RPMs will be arriving soon.

Incidently, the reason I was asking about this is that I discovered that the X 
display on my NEC MultiSync LCD400v is a little odd.  It looks fine, but the 
desktop is taller than the display and the only way to see the bottom of the 
image is to tell the monitor to scroll upwards.  Of course, I then can't see 
the top of the image.  There's no way to tell it to shorten the image (must be 
the nature of LCDs).  I was hoping that I could use Xconfigurator to fix or at 
least figure this one out.

If anybody has any clues or can reassure me that this will magically go away 
when X is rebuilt, I'd love to hear about it.

Chris

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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 15:56:11 -0500
From: scott hutinger <[email-masked]>
Subject: jdk 118 works great on pre-disk15

I have hotjava running the arm jdk118_v1 (?) currently.   Although I had
to use itself to build itself, as I couldn't seem to get the other java
tools to compile for some reason.  I didn't spend a lot of time trying
to figure out why.

I have it labeled as :

- -rw-rw-r--    1 root     ftp      11093609 Oct  5 16:48
jdk118_v1-arm-15-beta.tgz

    or

jdk118_v1-arm-15-beta.tgz

I haven't done extensive testing etc.... so this is a pre-release like
disk 15 is currently.

I found that even without a jit, the performance of hotjava under the
pre disk 15 seems much better than what disk 12 had.  Much better, and
more stable... ie no signal locks.

if you want to use it for something or just try it and let me know of
any problems...

ftp://skyping.mprojects.wiu.edu/pub/jdk118_v1-arm-15-beta.tgz

I'll spend more time with it and make a blackdown.org release when done
testing more.

thanks,
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Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 12:30:54 -0400
From: Woody Suwalski <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: DM 15 and sound

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> Rod Stewart wrote:
> 
> > Try the version of mc in my directory on netwinder.org.  In said directory,
> > I also have all the GNOME stuff, a working net-tools, and a few other
> > items.
> >         ftp.netwinder.org:/users/s/stewart/redhat
> >
> > -Rms
> 
> That's nice.
> I see that enlightenment is there aswell !
> Can i finally get my desktop looking like the R.H.6.0
> I have on my PC...?
> ( now if only the people of the telephone company
> speed up the installation of my new ISDN line...)
> 
> So who did a recompile of the kernel and made the
> sound working??
> 
> Jan Rinze.

OK, I put my Image-2.2.12 into /users/w/woody...

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Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 10:56:50 +0200
From: Jan Rinze <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: DM 15 and sound

Woody Suwalski wrote:

> "J.R.Peterzon" wrote:
>
> > So who did a recompile of the kernel and made the
> > sound working??
> >
> > Jan Rinze.
>
> OK, I put my Image-2.2.12 into /users/w/woody...
>
> Woody

Thanks.

Jan Rinze.

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Date: 7 Oct 1999 14:51:45 GMT
From: [email-masked] ()
Subject: in.tftpd and tv.o are broken in dm-3.0-15-public2

I installed dm-3.0-15-public2 a couple of days ago on my Rev5 board,
and I found a few problems:

/usr/sbin/in.tftpd is broken.  It doesn't return the packets
correctly.  I installed an older tftpd RPM from the netwinder.org site
and it worked.  I think this is a similar problem as the problems that
the older flash images had.

The tv.o kernel module does not work correctly.  It is compiled for an
older kernel and it doesn't load.  I tried to recompile the SRPM from
the netwinder.org site but it didn't work.  I would like to output to
the NTSC port of the Netwinder with the new disk image.  How do I do
that?

On an unrelated note:  I also have a Rev4 board and I would like to
use the codec.  Where can I find code or documentation about it?  I
looked around the documentation on the netwinder.org site and I didn't
find any leads.

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Date: 7 Oct 1999 18:59:14 GMT
From: Rod Stewart <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: in.tftpd and tv.o are broken in dm-3.0-15-public2

[email-masked] wrote:
> I installed dm-3.0-15-public2 a couple of days ago on my Rev5 board,
> and I found a few problems:

> /usr/sbin/in.tftpd is broken.  It doesn't return the packets
> correctly.  I installed an older tftpd RPM from the netwinder.org site
> and it worked.  I think this is a similar problem as the problems that
> the older flash images had.

The current one works.
        ftp.netwinder.org/users/a/andrewm/redhat/RPMS

Just tried it.

"It works, RMS said so :)"

> The tv.o kernel module does not work correctly.  It is compiled for an
> older kernel and it doesn't load.  I tried to recompile the SRPM from
> the netwinder.org site but it didn't work.  I would like to output to
> the NTSC port of the Netwinder with the new disk image.  How do I do
> that?

Fixed (should be).  Get the copy from:
        ftp.netwinder.org/users/d/douglasp/redhat/RPMS/netwinder-tv-*

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Date: 7 Oct 1999 19:41:11 GMT
From: Rod Stewart <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: in.tftpd and tv.o are broken in dm-3.0-15-public2

Rod Stewart <[email-masked]> wrote:
> [email-masked] wrote:

>> The tv.o kernel module does not work correctly.  It is compiled for an
>> older kernel and it doesn't load.  I tried to recompile the SRPM from
>> the netwinder.org site but it didn't work.  I would like to output to
>> the NTSC port of the Netwinder with the new disk image.  How do I do
>> that?

> Fixed (should be).  Get the copy from:
>         ftp.netwinder.org/users/d/douglasp/redhat/RPMS/netwinder-tv-*

OK, tested it.  It dies a horrible death now.  The source is available,
around the same place.  Just needs to be ported to a 2.2 kernel.
Have fun Dave, let us know when you have it fixed. :)

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Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 17:20:44 -0400
From: "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: We Need Your Help

I've built a compressed DM image tarball (380,868,897 bytes) and put
it in ftp://netwinder.org/pub/unofficial/dm-3.0-15-public3.tar.gz
It expands to about 1.1 GB (mostly in /usr).

This image is _VERY_ close to being final, unlike previous ones.

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Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 09:16:18 -0400
From: Patrick Naubert <[email-masked]>
Subject: Can't compile kernel in DM15

I just installed DM15, and I am trying to compile the kernel in
/usr/src/linux

When it gets to the frame buffer code, I get the following message:

fbcon.c: In function `fbcon_show_logo':
fbcon.c:2015: structure has no member named `fb_rastering'

and the compile dies at that point.

If I remove the Frame Buffer support, I can compile and run fine, but
the screen won't work...

Bummer.

Mind you, Woody's kernel works great...  Image-2.2.12

So, where do I get up-to-date kernel source for this ?  I thought that
I was not supposed to touch the main kernle source distributions...

Pat.

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