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devel-digest         Monday, December 6 1999         Volume 02 : Number 239

In this issue:

    Re: pppoe kernels won't boot?
    Re: pppoe kernels won't boot?
    Re: pppoe kernels won't boot?
    Re: HELP! Hosed again...
    Re: HELP! Hosed again...
    Re: HELP! Hosed again...
    sqlbench, etc.
    Re: sqlbench, etc.
    sendmail 8.9.3 & dm15p6
    Re: sendmail 8.9.3 & dm15p6
    Re: sendmail 8.9.3 & dm15p6
    Re: sendmail 8.9.3 & dm15p6 
    Re: sendmail 8.9.3 & dm15p6

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Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:49:11 +0000 (GMT)
From: Russell King <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: pppoe kernels won't boot?

Vic Metcalfe writes:
> I'm running netrom 2.0.4, is that the problem?

NeTTrom 2.0.4 is rather old, however both 2.2 and 2.3 kernels should
boot on it.  (My testbed for kernels is NeTTrom 2.0.4).

The kernels are normally a binary image and not ELF images.

PS, 'netrom' is a registered name (I'm uncertain if it's a trademark
as well).
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Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 11:51:10 -0500
From: Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: pppoe kernels won't boot?

Vic Metcalfe wrote:

> I'm running netrom 2.0.4, is that the problem?

Most likely th the problem.  The new kernels are stripped (no ELF
headers, no symbols) but they pretty much require 2.1 firmware to
operate.  Check out http://netwinder.org/~ralphs/compat.hml if you want
more details... or just grab new firmware from pub/netwinder/firmware
(2.1.7 will do the trick; I'll be releasing 2.1.16b shortly (or you can
grab it from Woody's home dir.))

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Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:49:47 -0500
From: Vic Metcalfe <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: pppoe kernels won't boot?

Thanks for the help guys - the nettrom upgrade did the trick, I can now
boot both kernels.  Hopefully the pppoe stuff works too!

Take care,
  Vic.

Ralph Siemsen wrote:
> 
> Vic Metcalfe wrote:
> 
> > I'm running netrom 2.0.4, is that the problem?
> 
> Most likely th the problem.  The new kernels are stripped (no ELF
> headers, no symbols) but they pretty much require 2.1 firmware to
> operate.  Check out http://netwinder.org/~ralphs/compat.hml if you want
> more details... or just grab new firmware from pub/netwinder/firmware
> (2.1.7 will do the trick; I'll be releasing 2.1.16b shortly (or you can
> grab it from Woody's home dir.))
> 
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Date: 28 Nov 1999 21:04:04 -0800
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: HELP! Hosed again...

As suggested by Ralph, booting via NFS is the only way to fly.

It makes it super easy to get things up and running when things get
fscked or when upgrading the disk image.  I now always keep an extra
NetWinder kernel and disk image tarball handy someplace.  If my Winder
ever messes up, I can reboot it using the disk image and/or the kernel
via NFS.  An added benefit is that the entire NetWinder disk drive is
available off-line.  You can even completely repartition it to your
tastes, which is what I have done.

Regards,

Arne

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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 16:49:28 -0500
From: Kevin Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: HELP! Hosed again...

Well... Things have gotten considerably worse without me doing a thing:

I left the machine running (or rather, "panicking") Wed night, and went
away for the holiday weekend.  This morning, I came in, flipped on the
monitor and as expected, the screen was right where I had left it:
mid-boot with the panic.  So, I give it the three-fingered salute, and
hear a sound that I've never noticed before:  Sort of like the fan,
but going louder-softer-louder-softer repeatedly.  The boot procedes,
but
now it says it can't find the hard disk at all.  I now interpret the 
sound as a hard disk trying and failing to get up to speed or something
like that.

Is there another possibility?  How replacable are these hard disks?

[email-masked] wrote:
> 
> As suggested by Ralph, booting via NFS is the only way to fly.
> 
> It makes it super easy to get things up and running when things get
> fscked or when upgrading the disk image.  I now always keep an extra
> NetWinder kernel and disk image tarball handy someplace.  If my Winder
> ever messes up, I can reboot it using the disk image and/or the kernel
> via NFS.  An added benefit is that the entire NetWinder disk drive is
> available off-line.  You can even completely repartition it to your
> tastes, which is what I have done.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Arne

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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:18:40 -0500
From: Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: HELP! Hosed again...

Kevin Cole wrote:
 
> I left the machine running (or rather, "panicking") Wed night, and went
> away for the holiday weekend.  This morning, I came in, flipped on the
> monitor and as expected, the screen was right where I had left it:
> mid-boot with the panic.  So, I give it the three-fingered salute, and
> hear a sound that I've never noticed before:  Sort of like the fan,
> but going louder-softer-louder-softer repeatedly.  The boot procedes,
> but

Hmm, sounds suspiciously of an overheating problem.  If the machine is
hung during startup it's possible that the fan control isn't enabled, so
the fan might have been off the whole time...

> now it says it can't find the hard disk at all.  I now interpret the
> sound as a hard disk trying and failing to get up to speed or something
> like that.

Turn it off and let it cool down, you might be lucky.  Failing that, the
drives are standard laptop IDE drives (we use Toshiba and Hitachi, but
it shouldn't matter).  You have to completely dissassemble the unit to
change the drive...

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Date: 30 Nov 1999 15:43:13 GMT
From: [email-masked] (=?iso-8859-1?Q?T=F6ns=20B=FCker?=)
Subject: sqlbench, etc.

Hi *,

I'm preparing for a Netwinder review in a german magazine.
I'd like to provide some benchmark-information along with
the normal stuff. 

So I tried to install the mysql-packages from the
ftp-area on ftp.netwinder.org - that didn't work. I have
dm-3.0.15-public6 running on the Netwinder.

Is there any other arm-rpm repository than
ftp.netwinder.org? 

Thx.

By
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Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 13:47:32 -0500
From: "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: sqlbench, etc.

Töns Büker wrote:
> So I tried to install the mysql-packages from the
> ftp-area on ftp.netwinder.org - that didn't work. I have
> dm-3.0.15-public6 running on the Netwinder.
> 
> Is there any other arm-rpm repository than
> ftp.netwinder.org?

Since you are playing with the beta, then the only current place is my
home directory:
  ftp://netwinder.org/devteam/andrewm/redhat/

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:02:41 -0800
From: "Nate 'Dr. Octagon' Gelbard" <[email-masked]>
Subject: sendmail 8.9.3 & dm15p6

Is RedHat/Linux/arm THAT different from ~Slackware Linux and/or *BSDs?
I usually have no trouble building sendmail (and others, like ssh) 
on those platforms.

thanx
	natez

[gelbardn@netwinder src]$ ./Build
Configuration: os=Linux, rel=2.2.12-19991020, rbase=2, rroot=2.2,
arch=armv4l, sfx=
Making in obj.Linux.2.2.12-19991020.armv4l
cc -O -I.  -DNEWDB     -c alias.c -o alias.o
cc -O -I.  -DNEWDB     -c arpadate.c -o arpadate.o
cc -O -I.  -DNEWDB     -c clock.c -o clock.o
cc -O -I.  -DNEWDB     -c collect.c -o collect.o
cc -O -I.  -DNEWDB     -c conf.c -o conf.o
cc -O -I.  -DNEWDB     -c control.c -o control.o
cc -O -I.  -DNEWDB     -c convtime.c -o convtime.o
cc -O -I.  -DNEWDB     -c daemon.c -o daemon.o
cc -O -I.  -DNEWDB     -c deliver.c -o deliver.o
cc -O -I.  -DNEWDB     -c domain.c -o domain.o
domain.c: In function `getmxrr':
domain.c:380: internal error--unrecognizable insn:
(insn 1583 1582 298 (set (reg:SI 4 r4)
        (umin:SI (reg/v:SI 4 r4)
            (const_int 8192 [0x2000]))) -1 (nil)
    (nil))
make: *** [domain.o] Error 1
[gelbardn@netwinder src]$ 

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Date: 3 Dec 1999 22:14:30 GMT
From: Rod Stewart <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: sendmail 8.9.3 & dm15p6

Nate 'Dr. Octagon' Gelbard <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Is RedHat/Linux/arm THAT different from ~Slackware Linux and/or *BSDs?
> I usually have no trouble building sendmail (and others, like ssh) 
> on those platforms.

no.

> [gelbardn@netwinder src]$ ./Build
> Configuration: os=Linux, rel=2.2.12-19991020, rbase=2, rroot=2.2,
> arch=armv4l, sfx=
[...]
> cc -O -I.  -DNEWDB     -c domain.c -o domain.o
> domain.c: In function `getmxrr':
> domain.c:380: internal error--unrecognizable insn:
> (insn 1583 1582 298 (set (reg:SI 4 r4)
>         (umin:SI (reg/v:SI 4 r4)
>             (const_int 8192 [0x2000]))) -1 (nil)
>     (nil))
> make: *** [domain.o] Error 1
> [gelbardn@netwinder src]$ 

This is a compiler bug with optimization.  if you build domain.c without 
optimization it is fine...
	cc -I.  -DNEWDB     -c domain.c -o domain.o

Take a look at the patch in the source rpm, which works around this.

- -Rms

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Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 17:15:10 -0500
From: Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: sendmail 8.9.3 & dm15p6

"Nate 'Dr. Octagon' Gelbard" wrote:

> cc -O -I.  -DNEWDB     -c domain.c -o domain.o
> domain.c: In function `getmxrr':
> domain.c:380: internal error--unrecognizable insn:
> (insn 1583 1582 298 (set (reg:SI 4 r4)
>         (umin:SI (reg/v:SI 4 r4)
>             (const_int 8192 [0x2000]))) -1 (nil)
>     (nil))

Maybe it's got x86 assembly code in there?  Might have to tell configure
to use generic C code.  Check Andrew's SRPM's and diff the source tree
in there against the one you have...

On a slightly related note, for those who have downloaded the BASE-DM-15
image, it contains sendmail but not procmail.  On linux apparently
sendmail uses procmail as the local delivery agent.  So, mail for
root@localhost sits in the mail queue forever, generating bounces...
install procmail and the problem vanishes.

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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 18:34:38 +0000
From: Philip Blundell <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: sendmail 8.9.3 & dm15p6 

>> domain.c:380: internal error--unrecognizable insn:
>> (insn 1583 1582 298 (set (reg:SI 4 r4)
>>         (umin:SI (reg/v:SI 4 r4)
>>             (const_int 8192 [0x2000]))) -1 (nil)
>>     (nil))
>
>Maybe it's got x86 assembly code in there? 

No; this looks more like a plain ol' compiler bug.  -O0 (or, paradoxically, 
- -O2) will sometimes make this go away.

p.

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Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 09:40:04 -0500
From: Scott Bambrough <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: sendmail 8.9.3 & dm15p6

> domain.c: In function `getmxrr':
> domain.c:380: internal error--unrecognizable insn:
> (insn 1583 1582 298 (set (reg:SI 4 r4)
>         (umin:SI (reg/v:SI 4 r4)
>             (const_int 8192 [0x2000]))) -1 (nil)
>     (nil))
> make: *** [domain.o] Error 1
> [gelbardn@netwinder src]$
> 
> Nate Gelbard                           office: 503.284.0369
> Straylight Research                    fax   : 516.828.8533

This is a compiler bug.  See:

http://egcs.cygnus.com/ml/gcc-bugs/1999-09/msg00023.html

Scott

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