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devel-digest         Tuesday, October 26 1999         Volume 02 : Number 234

In this issue:

    Re: Can't get NetRom 2.0.6 to boot with any image
    web server
    printing garbage in public3
    Re: printing garbage in public3
    Re: printing garbage in public3
    /dev/initctl not a FIFO
    Re: printing garbage in public3
    Re: printing garbage in public3
    Re: printing garbage in public3
    Re: printing garbage in public3
    DM build 15 public 4 now available
    Re: printing garbage in public3
    Re: DM build 15 public 4 now available
    [Q] Writing the Flash
    Re: DOH!!!
    Rescuing via tftp & nfs
    Re: DM build 15 public 4 now available
    Re: Rescuing via tftp & nfs
    Re: Rescuing via tftp & nfs
    Re: Rescuing via tftp & nfs
    Re: Rescuing via tftp & nfs
    DM 15 and NeTTRom
    Office Server and NeTTRom
    Re: Rescuing via tftp & nfs
    Re: DM 15 and NeTTRom
    Re: DM build 15 public 4 now available
    Re: DM 15 and NeTTRom
    Re: Office Server and NeTTRom
    Problem Solved (was: printing garbage in public3)
    Re: Problem Solved (was: printing garbage in public3)
    Re: Rescuing via tftp & nfs
    tftp/nfs boot multiple

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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:05:41 -0400
From: Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Can't get NetRom 2.0.6 to boot with any image

Hmm...  I can't spot anything wrong with the setup, certainly not for
the dm-12 image anyways.  Admittedly I've not tried using /dev/hda2 as
the root, but I can't see that it should make a difference.  You've
evidently got working firmware as well as a kernel that boots right up
to the point where filesystems are mounted.

You might want to check that /etc/mtab does not exist (delete it if it
does), since it might contain out-of-date mount information that could
confusion.  Also check the 'dump' and 'fsckorder' fields in /etc/fstab
to ensure they are "1,1" for root and "1,2" for the /home area.

You might also try booting with cmd=init=/bin/bash (or /bin/ash on
dm-12) and then try mounting the partitions manually.  Perhaps this
would give a better idea of what is causing the trouble.

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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:00:55 -0500
From: "Darryl DeGraff" <[email-masked]>
Subject: web server

I'm trying to take a look at the how-to's for remote booting at
www.netwinder.org, but cannot seem to retrieve.  Is this server
working?  Is there a mirror?

darryl (li-cor)

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:45:12 +0000
From: Allan Anderson <[email-masked]>
Subject: printing garbage in public3

Hey folks.  I have just recently dug out my defunct NW and attempted to
get it running with a new hard drive.  I've got it to boot off of
/dev/hda1...my problem is this:

The text appears to be printing in a totally screwed manner, with lots
of doubles.  for instance, the login prompt looks like this:

RRBBLLCCMMNNttiiddrrAAMM
DD eessoo .. BBiidd1 uullcc33

and so on.  the dmesg stuff is similarly wacky.  The netTTrom boot text
is fine, so I don't think that it's hardware failure.

I have a Corel Netwinder, Rev4 mobo, 64 megs RAM with a new IBM
Travelstar 8.1 gig UltraDMA disk.  What I did to update was slap this
drive into a linux system (running unstable debian), partition it, mkfs
it, mount the first partion and untar the public3 image to it.  hooked
it up to the netwinder again, booted up, then clomp.  Oh, during bootup
tux looks a bit warped, too.

I wish that I had gone in and set up the networking already...hmm.  I
also wish that I could get access to the debian disk image, and try
that.  Does anyone know where to find that these days?

Anyone have any idea what's going on?  I guess that I could try an older
image, or re-downloading it.

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 18:04:53 -0400
From: Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: printing garbage in public3

Allan Anderson wrote:

> RRBBLLCCMMNNttiiddrrAAMM
> DD eessoo .. BBiidd1 uullcc33

Cool... :)  

Does it do this all the way through the boot-up sequence, or only at the
login prompt?  In the latter case, it's probably some strange stty
setting.  I'd suggest booting single user, or with init=/bin/bash, to
see if you can isolate the problem.

> I have a Corel Netwinder, Rev4 mobo, 64 megs RAM with a new IBM
> Travelstar 8.1 gig UltraDMA disk.  What I did to update was slap this
> drive into a linux system (running unstable debian), partition it, mkfs
> it, mount the first partion and untar the public3 image to it.  hooked
> it up to the netwinder again, booted up, then clomp.  Oh, during bootup
> tux looks a bit warped, too.

The proceedure sounds fine.  Presumably you remembered to use the "p"
flag to tar when unpacking...

> I wish that I had gone in and set up the networking already...hmm.  I
> also wish that I could get access to the debian disk image, and try
> that.  Does anyone know where to find that these days?

I don't think it's been updated in ages... but...:

ftp://ftp.jimpick.com/pub/debian/arm/image/
 
> Anyone have any idea what's going on?  I guess that I could try an older
> image, or re-downloading it.

Try running gzip -tv image.tar.gz to verify the image if you suspect
it.  Trying an older image (dm-12) would probably be a good idea as a
last resort (or if you have lots of bandwidth to spare...).

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 22:30:26 +0000
From: Allan Anderson <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: printing garbage in public3

Ralph Siemsen wrote:
> 
> Allan Anderson wrote:
> 
> > RRBBLLCCMMNNttiiddrrAAMM
> > DD eessoo .. BBiidd1 uullcc33
> 
> Cool... :)
Yeah, I can log in as root, too.  then it says:
[[oottiinnttiidd//oott##

oh, and the cursor is double width, too.  Plus, there's a little
horizontal flicker that crawls up the screen...

> Does it do this all the way through the boot-up sequence, or only at the
> login prompt?  In the latter case, it's probably some strange stty
> setting.  I'd suggest booting single user, or with init=/bin/bash, to
> see if you can isolate the problem.
sadly, it does it all the way through the boot sequence...

> The proceedure sounds fine.  Presumably you remembered to use the "p"
> flag to tar when unpacking...
Yep...also moved /etc/mmap to /etc/mmpa.backup...

> ftp://ftp.jimpick.com/pub/debian/arm/image/
can't get in.
> 
> > Anyone have any idea what's going on?  I guess that I could try an older
> > image, or re-downloading it.
> 
> Try running gzip -tv image.tar.gz to verify the image if you suspect
> it.  Trying an older image (dm-12) would probably be a good idea as a
> last resort (or if you have lots of bandwidth to spare...).
it says that the archive is okay.  it was fun to see 'file
/netwinder/redhat/lib/libc.so' tell me that it was an ARM file, when I
had it hooked up to my x86 box :)
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:54:23 -0700
From: "Sean Hummel" <[email-masked]>
Subject: /dev/initctl not a FIFO

I recently installed the latest image, for dm15, and found that when I
booted I kept getting:

"/dev/initctl not a FIFO"

I'm not familiar with what the initctl is, however this doesn't seem to
affect the use of my Netwinder.

Is this something which will affect operation of my Netwinder?

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 22:57:28 -0400
From: "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: printing garbage in public3

Allan Anderson wrote:
> > Allan Anderson wrote:
> > > RRBBLLCCMMNNttiiddrrAAMM
> > > DD eessoo .. BBiidd1 uullcc33
> Yeah, I can log in as root, too.  then it says:
> [[oottiinnttiidd//oott##
> 
> oh, and the cursor is double width, too.  Plus, there's a little
> horizontal flicker that crawls up the screen...

That is so totally screwed up it can't possibly be my image's fault.

How many fingers am I holding up?  Played sports before the helmet rules?
If you've not been drinking, perhaps a few belts will help :)

On a serious note, other than checking your monitor cable and kernel,
this one has me baffled :(

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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:11:46 -0400
From: Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: printing garbage in public3

Allan Anderson wrote:

> oh, and the cursor is double width, too.  Plus, there's a little
> horizontal flicker that crawls up the screen...

Must be a problem with the 2.2 framebuffer device then.  The video chip
runs in graphics mode by default now, and for some reason your gfx chip
doesn't seem to be co-operating.  I've tried the kernel on a number of
boxes here, including rev4's, so I'm a bit puzzled as to why it doesn't
want to work.

In the interim, I'd suggest going back to the vga console.  I can built
a kernel for you if you wish, or you can do it yourself.  You can
temporarily install a 2.0.35 kernel so that your screen will be readable
(may cause some errors during the boot-up using build 15, but nothing
critical).

> > ftp://ftp.jimpick.com/pub/debian/arm/image/
> can't get in.

He's using strick password checking, you have to supply a real email
address for the password (eg. I have to use [email-masked]) when
doing anonymous login.

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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:58:06 +0100 (BST)
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: printing garbage in public3

Andrew E. Mileski writes:
> On a serious note, other than checking your monitor cable and kernel,
> this one has me baffled :(

Unlikely to be monitor cable - the signal to a monitor is a serial stream
of varying voltages.  You either have all the characters present in some
form (possibly with echos of each one) or no characters at all.  You could
never get repeated and missed characters.

It is more likely that there is a hardware fault with your NetWinders
video hardware - video address bit 4.

Can you try different bpp and see what effect it has?
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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 13:42:01 -0400
From: "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: printing garbage in public3

[email-masked] wrote:
> Andrew E. Mileski writes:
> > On a serious note, other than checking your monitor cable and kernel,
> > this one has me baffled :(
> 
> Unlikely to be monitor cable - the signal to a monitor is a serial stream
> of varying voltages.  You either have all the characters present in some
> form (possibly with echos of each one) or no characters at all.  You could
> never get repeated and missed characters.

*Laugh*  Russell, you really don't know me.

After all those years in university for Electrical Engineering, believe it
or not, I even know how to set the time on a VCR too! *laugh*

Happy hacking :)

P.S. A loose or bad cable can cause the sparkle mentioned.  I've personally
     experienced this before.  I didn't intend for it to fix the doubled text.

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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 19:56:33 -0400
From: "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
Subject: DM build 15 public 4 now available

Another DM build to test.  This one features fewer bugs (I hope), GNOME,
gdb, and is 100% RPM generated.

ftp://netwinder.org/pub/unofficial/dm-3.0-15-public4.tar.gz

There is also a base image for those not wanting X, development, or
non-essential applications.

ftp://netwinder.org/pub/unofficial/base-3.0-15-public4.tar.gz

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Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 01:53:30 +0000
From: Allan Anderson <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: printing garbage in public3

"Andrew E. Mileski" wrote:
> How many fingers am I holding up?  Played sports before the helmet rules?
> If you've not been drinking, perhaps a few belts will help :)

yeah, I tried beer, but no luck.  perhaps whiskey can help me...

In further news, I managed to get the debian image from the end of
August, and it works fine.  It's using 80x50 or something, so that might
make a difference.  I wonder why my box is unlike any others? 
hmm...well, at least I can now build that kernel that Ralph suggested...

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Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 12:33:18 -0500
From: "Darryl DeGraff" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: DM build 15 public 4 now available

Andrew E. Mileski <andrewm @ netwinder.org> wote:
ftp://netwinder.org/pub/unofficial/dm-3.0-15-public4.tar.gz

Andrew,

what sort of partitioning is required for installation of these disk
images.  I tried to
put / and /home on different partitions and it choked big time (/home
directories
appeared in /bin and could not find utilities ...).  Also, what are the
recommended
partition sizes.

darryl (li-cor)

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Date: 23 Oct 1999 13:41:00 -0700
From: [email-masked]
Subject: [Q] Writing the Flash

How long does it take to write the new firmware to the Flash RAM
using nwflash?

I've started the process and there is absolutely no visual feedback.
I understand why this is, but absent any feedback when I pressed
the "y" key, how do I know how long this process takes?

Maybe this information should be in the How-To.

Regards,

Arne W. Flones

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Date: 23 Oct 1999 15:03:42 -0700
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: DOH!!!

Doh!!

Cockpit problems.  Here I am waiting for something to happen, afraid
to touch anything.

nwflash says:

   Press 'Y' to continue, or anything else to abort...

nwflash should say:

  Press 'Y' and Enter to continue, or anything else to abort...

I feel stupid.

Everything went fine and it only takes a few seconds.

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Date: 23 Oct 1999 19:09:04 -0700
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Rescuing via tftp & nfs

I did the 2.1.7 nettrom upgrade.  I thought that my kernel was okay,
but it wasn't.  I'm getting the damn kernel panic deal reported above.

So now I have to rescue my damn NetWinder via my damned network.
I really hate having to do this all be trial and error after error.

My local network has IP addresses 192.168.1.x
The Netwinder is 192.168.1.3
and the machine with the disk image and kernel is 192.168.1.1

I have the following setup in the nettrom

- -------------------------------------------------
load-defaults
setenv netconfig_eth1 flash
setenv eth1_ip 192.168.1.3/24

setenv kernconfig tftp
setenv kerntftpserver 192.168.1.1
setenv kerntftpfile /tftpboot/vmlinux-netwinder

setenv rootconfig nfs
setenv rootpath 192.168.1.1:/usr/local/netwinder

save-all
boot
- -------------------------------------------------

When I type boot the following comes up on the Winder's
display

- -------------------------------------------------
Receiving bootfile /tftpboot/vmlinux-netwinder from bootserver 196.168.1.1
tftp_recvfile(): sys_sendto() failed (-101)

NeTTrom command-> <6>eth1: MII monitoring tick: CSR12 c6, MII status
7809, Link partner report 0000.
- -------------------------------------------------

At the point the second part of the display shows, the light on
my hub for the Winder finally lights up.

Now that the link is live, I'll try the boot again.

Type:

- ------------
boot
- ------------

The lights on the hub do not flash and the same error message shows
as above: tftp_recvfile(): sys_sendto() failed (-101)

It looks like the Winder isn't even hitting eth1 to look for the
boot host.

What's going on, and what can I do to fix it?

Any ideas?  Thanks

Regards,

Arne
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Date: 24 Oct 1999 02:45:30 GMT
From: Rod Stewart <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: DM build 15 public 4 now available

Darryl DeGraff <[email-masked]> wrote:

> what sort of partitioning is required for installation of these disk
> images.  I tried to
> put / and /home on different partitions and it choked big time (/home
> directories
> appeared in /bin and could not find utilities ...).  Also, what are the
> recommended
> partition sizes.

Well it is about 1.1 GB in total untared.  The majority of that
close to 900MB - 1 GB is in /usr.  Lately I've been giving
partitions a size of about 2GB, and usually put everything
on / the first partition.

/home will be fairly small under 50MB by default..

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Date: 24 Oct 1999 02:48:42 GMT
From: Rod Stewart <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Rescuing via tftp & nfs

[email-masked] wrote:

> My local network has IP addresses 192.168.1.x
> The Netwinder is 192.168.1.3
> and the machine with the disk image and kernel is 192.168.1.1

> I have the following setup in the nettrom

> -------------------------------------------------
> load-defaults
> setenv netconfig_eth1 flash
> setenv eth1_ip 192.168.1.3/24
[...]
> -------------------------------------------------
> Receiving bootfile /tftpboot/vmlinux-netwinder from bootserver 196.168.1.1
> tftp_recvfile(): sys_sendto() failed (-101)

You don't have "netconfig_eth0 flash" set do you?  You might want to try 
booting on the 10Mbit NIC, and see if it works.

If you tcpdump on the network, do you see any packets from the
NetWinder when it tries to boot?

- -Rms

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Date: 24 Oct 1999 00:50:59 -0700
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Rescuing via tftp & nfs

Rod Stewart <[email-masked]> writes:

> [email-masked] wrote:
> 
> > My local network has IP addresses 192.168.1.x
> > The Netwinder is 192.168.1.3
> > and the machine with the disk image and kernel is 192.168.1.1
> 
> > I have the following setup in the nettrom
> 
> > -------------------------------------------------
> > load-defaults
> > setenv netconfig_eth1 flash
> > setenv eth1_ip 192.168.1.3/24
> [...]
> > -------------------------------------------------
> > Receiving bootfile /tftpboot/vmlinux-netwinder from bootserver 196.168.1.1
> > tftp_recvfile(): sys_sendto() failed (-101)
> 
> You don't have "netconfig_eth0 flash" set do you?  You might want to try 
> booting on the 10Mbit NIC, and see if it works.
> 
> If you tcpdump on the network, do you see any packets from the
> NetWinder when it tries to boot?

Not a one.  I have shut down the rest of the network and the lights on
the hub don't flash either.  Once the eth1 interface comes up I can
even ping the NetWinder while it sits at the nettrom prompt without
any problems.  But I believe that the NetWinder is still trying to
fetch the kernel from eth0, instead of eth1.  This isn't documented as
far as I can tell.

Also what is not documented is the fact that this nettrom version
(2.1.7) requires a newer kernel than is standard on my machine.  The
required kernels should be *prominently* displayed on the
netwinder.org page where you download the nettrom.  It should also be
part of the HowTo document.  This will prevent others from accidently
messing things up like I did.  I had read and reread the Nettrom-HowTo
and had no indication that my kernel was not new enough.  The result?
A needlessly screwed up machine!  I'm not at all happy about this
situation.

I guess I'll have to buy a Xover cable to connect it directly to the
other machine because I don't think my hub will work on 10base.
That's better and cheaper than having to send the Winder back to
Rebel.com, which I'll do only as a last resort.

- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
If anybody can verify that the NetWinder with nettrom 2.1.7 will *not*
load the boot kernel from the eth1 port using tftp, that would help me
determine if I might have another problem.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks for your assistance.

Regards,

Arne
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> 
> -Rms

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 10:42:06 -0400
From: Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Rescuing via tftp & nfs

[email-masked] wrote:

It doens't work on eth1 (sorry...)  Use eth0, and plug the cable into
10-base-T input.  Support for the tulip in the firmware has always been
sketchy at best.

Alternatively, you can serially download the kernel.  It only takes
about 2 minutes.

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Date: 24 Oct 1999 08:24:11 -0700
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Rescuing via tftp & nfs

Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]> writes:
> 
> It doens't work on eth1 (sorry...)  Use eth0, and plug the cable into
> 10-base-T input.  Support for the tulip in the firmware has always been
> sketchy at best.
> 
> Alternatively, you can serially download the kernel.  It only takes
> about 2 minutes.
> 
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Thanks, Ralph.

Maybe this is something that needs to be added to the HowTo and/or to
the FAQ.  I killed a half a day futzing around with this.

Regards,

Arne

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 19:49:41 -0400
From: Matthew Keller <[email-masked]>
Subject: DM 15 and NeTTRom

	If this has already been asked, my apologies. What is the required
NeTTRom version for DM 15? 

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 19:54:04 -0400
From: Matthew Keller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Office Server and NeTTRom

	While I'm displaying my NeTTRom ignorance, I might as well ask "What is
the required/recommended NeTTrom version for the Office Server image?"

	Thanks, :)
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:36:06 -0700
From: Mike Montour <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Rescuing via tftp & nfs

Ralph Siemsen wrote:

> It doens't work on eth1 (sorry...)  Use eth0, and plug the cable into
> 10-base-T input.  Support for the tulip in the firmware has always been
> sketchy at best.

On my machine with any 2.x firmware I've tested, eth1 works. However,
the first access to the device always fails. So, the sequence to net-boot
is:

  load-defaults
  setnetwork eth1        <- Times out, gives "<6>eth1: MII monitoring..."
  setnetwork eth1        <- Second time gets correct DHCP reply
  setenv kernconfig tftp
  setenv rootconfig nfs
  boot

Even if you're not using DHCP, a "setnetwork eth1" ought to wake up
the interface so that the next access will work.

For the original poster: I have a utility package to assist remote-booting

located at http://www.netwinder.org/~mmontour/, however I had
problems last time I tried to use it, so something may be broken with
newer (2.1.x) firmwares. Use at your own risk.

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Date: 25 Oct 1999 03:16:31 GMT
From: Rod Stewart <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: DM 15 and NeTTRom

Matthew Keller <[email-masked]> wrote:

> 	If this has already been asked, my apologies. What is the required
> NeTTRom version for DM 15? 

I've been using 2.1.16, which seems fairly stable.  As for officail type
one I belive it is 2.1.7.  None official are around /users/w/woody/

- -Rms

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:40:56 -0400
From: "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: DM build 15 public 4 now available

Darryl DeGraff wrote:
> what sort of partitioning is required for installation of these disk
> images.

We are currently using:
  1) /   [whatever remains]
  2) swap [64 MB]
  3) /usr [1.5 GB or 50% remaining up to 2 GB max]
  4) rescue [10 MB]
The root partition is actually pretty small (about 50 MB).  The extra
space is for user homes, temporary files, and such.

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:44:11 -0400
From: "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: DM 15 and NeTTRom

Matthew Keller wrote:
>         If this has already been asked, my apologies. What is the required
> NeTTRom version for DM 15?

The exact RPM/SRPM can be found in my home directory under RPMS-pass2/
SRPMS-dm/

The binary is of course on the image too under /boot

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:53:58 -0400
From: Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Office Server and NeTTRom

Matthew Keller wrote:
> 
>         While I'm displaying my NeTTRom ignorance, I might as well ask "What is
> the required/recommended NeTTrom version for the Office Server image?"

All of the disk images based on 2.2 kernels require firmware 2.0.8 or
better.  Recommended versions are 2.1.7 (available in
/pub/netwinder/firmware) and 2.1.15 (currently in woody's home dir, will
be in the /pub/netwinder/firmware area fairly soon).

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:40:28 +0000
From: Allan Anderson <[email-masked]>
Subject: Problem Solved (was: printing garbage in public3)

So, I was working with the 2.0.1 nettrom. Updating to the latest one
(thanks for including it on the image, Andrew) solves my problem!

Thanks for the help.

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:57:03 -0400
From: "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Problem Solved (was: printing garbage in public3)

Allan Anderson wrote:
> So, I was working with the 2.0.1 nettrom. Updating to the latest one
> (thanks for including it on the image, Andrew) solves my problem!
> 
> Thanks for the help.

Wow...glad I actually did something good for a change :^)

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Date: 26 Oct 1999 04:24:29 GMT
From: [email-masked] (Jim Tittsler)
Subject: Re: Rescuing via tftp & nfs

On 24 Oct 1999 08:24:11 -0700, [email-masked] wrote:
>Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]> writes:
>> 
>> It doens't work on eth1 (sorry...)  Use eth0, and plug the cable into
>> 10-base-T input.  Support for the tulip in the firmware has always been
>> sketchy at best.
>
>Maybe this is something that needs to be added to the HowTo and/or to
>the FAQ.  I killed a half a day futzing around with this.

It is mentioned in the FAQ (question 2.2), but perhaps it should be
mentioned more prominently.  I'll add something to the "tulip"
question/answer as well.

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:37:32 -0500
From: "Darryl DeGraff" <[email-masked]>
Subject: tftp/nfs boot multiple

I cannot seem to find information (maybe I am just not asking the correct
question) on booting multiple netwinders from the same host.  Can anyone
point me in the right direction?

darryl (li-cor)

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