Subject: devel-digest V2 #233
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devel-digest         Monday, October 18 1999         Volume 02 : Number 233

In this issue:

    How hot is too hot? Was: therm.h
    Re: How hot is too hot? Was: therm.h
    Re: How hot is too hot? Was: therm.h
    Re: How hot is too hot? Was: therm.h
    Re: How hot is too hot? Was: therm.h
    Re: How hot is too hot? Was: therm.h
    Re: How hot is too hot? Was: therm.h
    Re: How hot is too hot? Was: therm.h
    --fomit-frame-pointer?
    Re: --fomit-frame-pointer? 
    Re: --fomit-frame-pointer?
    a couple of questions
    Re: --fomit-frame-pointer?
    Re: a couple of questions
    Re: a couple of questions
    NeTTrom 2.1.7 boot problem
    Re: NeTTrom 2.1.7 boot problem
    Re: Is there a better/newer util-linux than util-linux-2.9t-16nw1.armv4l.rpm 
    Re: Is there a better/newer util-linux than util-linux-2.9t-16nw1.armv4l.rpm
    Can't get NetRom 2.0.6 to boot with any image

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Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 06:26:24 -0700
From: Steven Ng <[email-masked]>
Subject: How hot is too hot? Was: therm.h

"Eric A. Perlman" wrote:

> Hi,
>
>

<Portions deleted>

>
> I'd love to be able to turn the fan off at night like I did last year.
> My roommate this year is picky about noise, so I've been unplugging my
> poor netwinder at night.  :-(
>
>  - Eric

I was playing with this when I first got my Netwinder.  My Netwinder runs
at about 36-38ºC with the fan running continually.  The fan would start up
when the temperature reached 45ºC and shut off when it got down to 35ºC.  I
was a little concerened about what effect a 10ºC temperature swing would
have on the mechanical aspects of the hardware, such as would the parts
work themselves loose.  I've seen this happen before in environments where
the temperature swings were much more dramatic, but wasn't as concerned in
this case.

For a while, I would only do this at night, but I stopped this practice
when I read that the fan should always be running to avoid damaging the
CPU.  Lately, I've been shutting mine off at night.  But this post got me
wondering.  If I wanted to shutdown the fan periodically, at what
temperature should it start up?  I have my Netwinder standing on its side
with the fan at the top, figuring that would give me the best convective
flow.

Steven

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 14:45:05 +0100 (BST)
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: How hot is too hot? Was: therm.h

Steven Ng writes:
> For a while, I would only do this at night, but I stopped this practice
> when I read that the fan should always be running to avoid damaging the
> CPU.

Where did you read that?  The NetWinder does not use a well-baked x86 CPU,
but one which will overclock to 287MHz and not get above 35C in free air.

My `winders have the temperature set to 45-47, or 53-55C for the fan, and
they mostly run with the fan at low speed.  Note that when the temperature
falls below the lower point, the fan remains running, but slower.

The newer `winder runs 24 hours a day, set to 45-47C, and the fan never
runs at high speed.
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 17:42:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jamie Guinan <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: How hot is too hot? Was: therm.h

On Sat, 9 Oct 1999, Steven Ng wrote:

<snip>
> For a while, I would only do this at night, but I stopped this practice
> when I read that the fan should always be running to avoid damaging the
> CPU.  Lately, I've been shutting mine off at night.  But this post got me
> wondering.  If I wanted to shutdown the fan periodically, at what
> temperature should it start up?  I have my Netwinder standing on its side
> with the fan at the top, figuring that would give me the best convective
> flow.

If you do end up experimenting with leaving the fan off for any period of
time, I'd recommend looking into setting the spin-down time to a short
period with "hdparm".  In my NetWinder the hard drive is probably the
greatest source of heat.  You might want to turn off any daemons that do
regular disk access at night to keep it from spinning up and down too
much.  Likewise with cron jobs like updatedb/slocate.

- -Jamie

p.s.
I had written a little daemon called "fand" which turned the fan off when
the temperature fell below a certain level (and turn it back on when it
rose above another level), but it turned out to be worse than useless once
the room temperature got above 85F (29C).  It would cause the fan to
"thrash" from off to full speed every few minutes.  Now I just keep my
NetWinder under my desk to mask the noise...

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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 14:15:13 -0700
From: Steven Ng <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: How hot is too hot? Was: therm.h

[email-masked] wrote:

> Steven Ng writes:
> > For a while, I would only do this at night, but I stopped this practice
> > when I read that the fan should always be running to avoid damaging the
> > CPU.
>
> Where did you read that?  The NetWinder does not use a well-baked x86 CPU,
> but one which will overclock to 287MHz and not get above 35C in free air.

I think I may have read this in a post to [email-masked] earlier this
year, before we went to a news server.  I may also have inferred it from the
an older doc, now out of date, at
http://www.netwinder.org/~ralphs/boot.html.  Under the fan problem bullet,
there is a sentence "The fan must run to prevent the CPU from overheating."
I inferred from this that the fan must always run.

>
>
> My `winders have the temperature set to 45-47, or 53-55C for the fan, and
> they mostly run with the fan at low speed.  Note that when the temperature
> falls below the lower point, the fan remains running, but slower.

>
> The newer `winder runs 24 hours a day, set to 45-47C, and the fan never
> runs at high speed.

I see that my Netwinder, tends to run at about that temperature also.  During
the summer I think it would have gotten well over 50C, though, as I don't
have air conditioning.

Steven

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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 14:25:45 -0700
From: Steven Ng <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: How hot is too hot? Was: therm.h

Jamie Guinan wrote:

<Portions snipped>

>
> I had written a little daemon called "fand" which turned the fan off when
> the temperature fell below a certain level (and turn it back on when it
> rose above another level), but it turned out to be worse than useless once
> the room temperature got above 85F (29C).  It would cause the fan to
> "thrash" from off to full speed every few minutes.  Now I just keep my
> NetWinder under my desk to mask the noise...
>

I thought about possibly mounting a baffle near the fan.  I agree, it would be
easier to put the Netwinder somewhere out of the way, like under the desk.
But it sure looks cool to have it sitting on top of the desk :)

Steven

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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:03:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jamie Guinan <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: How hot is too hot? Was: therm.h

On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Steven Ng wrote:
> 
> I thought about possibly mounting a baffle near the fan.  I agree, it would be
> easier to put the Netwinder somewhere out of the way, like under the desk.
> But it sure looks cool to have it sitting on top of the desk :)

Yeah, they are cute little buggers.  I took mine apart a while ago
(what warranty?) and I found that the fan isn't that loud by itself - the
noise seems to be largely case reverberation.  If I ever feel adventurous
I suppose I could shear off the rivets holding it to the backplane
then slip a gasket in there the dampen the noise and put screws
where the rivets were.

Anyway, the noise issue has long been a subject of complaint, so
I expect the Rebel folks will develop a more quiet design in the
future.

- -Jamie

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 10:23:58 -0400
From: "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: How hot is too hot? Was: therm.h

[email-masked] wrote:
> My `winders have the temperature set to 45-47, or 53-55C for the fan, and
> they mostly run with the fan at low speed.  Note that when the temperature
> falls below the lower point, the fan remains running, but slower.
> 
> The newer `winder runs 24 hours a day, set to 45-47C, and the fan never
> runs at high speed.

Someone wrote a fan daemon a while back that switches the fan off on
on rev 5 boards (can't do this on rev 4, as the signal is the telephone
codec reset) when the temperature gets low, and back on when it starts
to get warm.

Shouldn't be hard to script this though.

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 10:49:05 -0400
From: Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: How hot is too hot? Was: therm.h

Steven Ng wrote:
>
> http://www.netwinder.org/~ralphs/boot.html.  Under the fan problem bullet,
> there is a sentence "The fan must run to prevent the CPU from overheating."
> I inferred from this that the fan must always run.

That sentence was referring to that fact that the fan driver has to be
compiled in, otherwise the fan can't be software controlled, and
therefore might not turn on at all... which would be a Bad Thing in most
cases.

Kevin Huges found an alternate source of fans that work well with the
NetWinder.  See his pages at
http://www.kevcom.com/writings/netwinder.fan.html for more information. 
I've been using the fan he suggested on my winder at home for several
months and can highly recommend it.  Temperature profiles and photos of
how to change the fans are on my site at
http://rfs.ath.cx/temperature.html for those who are interested.

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:43:52 -0500
From: scott hutinger <[email-masked]>
Subject: --fomit-frame-pointer?

I would guess that --fomit-frame-pointer is working, but I notice that
all of X, and gnome are built with this, and I noticed that some of
gnome is crashing (ie.  some games and some panels).

I was going to look into the gnome stuff, but thought it might just be a
temporary thing or something else.

Any ideas, or if newer X11 (I have the Oct 8th srpm).  I didn't want to
duplicate anyone...

thanks,
scott

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 22:54:02 +0100
From: Philip Blundell <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: --fomit-frame-pointer? 

>I would guess that --fomit-frame-pointer is working, but I notice that
>all of X, and gnome are built with this, and I noticed that some of
>gnome is crashing (ie.  some games and some panels).

I don't know of any problems with -fomit-frame-pointer per se.  But if you use 
this option it becomes much harder to debug any crashes that might occur.  For 
most applications the performance gain is of questionable significance anyway.

p.

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Date: 14 Oct 1999 13:32:21 GMT
From: Rod Stewart <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: --fomit-frame-pointer?

scott hutinger <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I was going to look into the gnome stuff, but thought it might just be a
> temporary thing or something else.

What problems are you having with GNOME?  Do you get (on the console):
    BUG IN DYNAMIC LINKER ld.so: ../sysdeps/arm/dl-machine.h: 441:
    elf_machine_rel: Assertion `! "unexpected dynamic reloc type"' failed!

If so grab the version of ORBit from:
	ftp.netwinder.org/users/a/andrewm/redhat/RPMS-pass1/
[stewart@dystopia stewart]$ rpm -qip \
    /netapp/ftp/users/a/andrewm/redhat/RPMS-pass1/ORBit-0.4.95-2.armv4l.rpm \
    | grep Date
Release     : 2                        Build Date: Thu Oct  7 12:14:22 1999
[stewart@dystopia stewart]$

which is a relink.  ORBit takes some code from /usr/lib/libwrap.a,
this library in the past was not compiled with -fPIC...

Any other problems with GNOME, I'd love to hear about...

> Any ideas, or if newer X11 (I have the Oct 8th srpm).  I didn't want to
> duplicate anyone...

The latest X is: XFree86-3.3.3.1-36nw8.armv4l.rpm

- -Rms

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:32:36 -0500
From: "Darryl DeGraff" <[email-masked]>
Subject: a couple of questions

A couple of quick questions:

- - We just got a shipment of netwinders with DM build 13 on them.  I guess I
do not recall an official release of this.  Are there any details that
might be useful to us before we turn it loose internally or on our
customers?

- - The final 'ploop' when the system is halted under build 12: our marketing
people wer hoping to chaage this to something a bit more 'audible', of
their own design.  Can it be changed?  And if so, where might that file be
located?

darryl (li-cor)

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:22:05 -0500
From: scott hutinger <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: --fomit-frame-pointer?

Hmmm, running  AisleRiot I get a crash, but it seems guile related instead of
gnome related.  I got the most current cvs guile:
/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/gnome-games-1.0.40/aisleriot/.libs/lt-sol: ice-9:
configured on Fri Sep 10 13:15:10 EDT 1999

Gnome-WARNING **: g_is_image_filename called, you should use gnome-mime instead

sol.scm:378:28: In procedure random in expression (random len):
sol.scm:378:28: Wrong type argument in position 2: (
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x405395ec in scm_iprin1 (exp=0, port=1081169672, pstate=0x2050268)
    at print.c:367
367       switch (SCM_TYP7 (exp))
(gdb) bt
#0  0x405395ec in scm_iprin1 (exp=0, port=1081169672, pstate=0x2050268)
    at print.c:367
#1  0x4053b19c in scm_iprlist (hdr=0x40576edc "(", exp=1079538840, tlr=41,
    port=1081169672, pstate=0x2050268) at print.c:828
#2  0x40539a2c in scm_iprin1 (exp=1079538840, port=1081169672,
    pstate=0x2050268) at print.c:382
#3  0x4053ae60 in scm_prin1 (exp=1079538840, port=1081169672, writingp=1)
    at print.c:741
#4  0x404fa354 in scm_display_error_message () from /usr/lib/libguile.so.5
#5  0x404fa818 in scm_display_error () from /usr/lib/libguile.so.5
#6  0x407500b0 in ?? ()

Anyway, something in the parser or something isn't correct..  I never was much
into CAR/CDR :-)

thanks for the other info...

Rod Stewart wrote:

> scott hutinger <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> > I was going to look into the gnome stuff, but thought it might just be a
> > temporary thing or something else.
>
> What problems are you having with GNOME?  Do you get (on the console):
>     BUG IN DYNAMIC LINKER ld.so: ../sysdeps/arm/dl-machine.h: 441:
>     elf_machine_rel: Assertion `! "unexpected dynamic reloc type"' failed!
>
> If so grab the version of ORBit from:
>         ftp.netwinder.org/users/a/andrewm/redhat/RPMS-pass1/
> [stewart@dystopia stewart]$ rpm -qip \
>     /netapp/ftp/users/a/andrewm/redhat/RPMS-pass1/ORBit-0.4.95-2.armv4l.rpm \
>     | grep Date
> Release     : 2                        Build Date: Thu Oct  7 12:14:22 1999
> [stewart@dystopia stewart]$
>
> which is a relink.  ORBit takes some code from /usr/lib/libwrap.a,
> this library in the past was not compiled with -fPIC...
>
> Any other problems with GNOME, I'd love to hear about...
>
> > Any ideas, or if newer X11 (I have the Oct 8th srpm).  I didn't want to
> > duplicate anyone...
>
> The latest X is: XFree86-3.3.3.1-36nw8.armv4l.rpm
>
> -Rms

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:43:58 -0400
From: "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: a couple of questions

Darryl DeGraff wrote:
> - We just got a shipment of netwinders with DM build 13 on them.  I guess I
> do not recall an official release of this.  Are there any details that
> might be useful to us before we turn it loose internally or on our
> customers?

Build 13 was an internal release.  The dev team used it for a good amount
of time.  With the delay in getting build 15 out, and the premature release
of build 14, the decision was made to ship build 13.  It's only disadvantage
is that it is a legacy build and not rpm based.  Other than this, it does
indeed work for most purposes.

> - The final 'ploop' when the system is halted under build 12: our marketing
> people wer hoping to chaage this to something a bit more 'audible', of
> their own design.  Can it be changed?  And if so, where might that file be
> located?

Woody and Ralph should know the answer to this...guys?

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:40:09 -0400
From: Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: a couple of questions

Darryl DeGraff wrote:
 
> - We just got a shipment of netwinders with DM build 13 on them.  I guess I
> do not recall an official release of this.  Are there any details that
> might be useful to us before we turn it loose internally or on our
> customers?

Andrew's answer covers all the reasons.  For a list of changes relative
to DM#12, please see http://netwinder.org/~ralphs/build13.html.  The
firmware has been updated also, since I wrote that web page.
 
> - The final 'ploop' when the system is halted under build 12: our marketing
> people wer hoping to chaage this to something a bit more 'audible', of
> their own design.  Can it be changed?  And if so, where might that file be
> located?

You can edit it in the /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt script, just cat whatever
sound you wish to /dev/audio.

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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:48:49 -0500
From: "Darryl DeGraff" <[email-masked]>
Subject: NeTTrom 2.1.7 boot problem

We boot remote and put disk image 12 on the NW's we set up for
our customers.  However, when we then try to boot to the hard drive
we get
     Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:02
We had no trouble with this procedure on NeTTrom 2.0.x.  Any
suggestions?

darryl (li-cor)

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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:11:55 -0400
From: Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: NeTTrom 2.1.7 boot problem

Darryl DeGraff wrote:
>
>      Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:02
> We had no trouble with this procedure on NeTTrom 2.0.x.  Any
> suggestions?

A few options:
1) Use a kernel that understands the param struct (2.0.35-990622, or a
2.2)
2) Binary patch the kernel you have (look for the default command line,
and change /dev/hda2 to /dev/hda1)
3) Make /dev/hda2 your root filesystem

Cheers
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 15:57:13 +0100
From: Philip Blundell <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Is there a better/newer util-linux than util-linux-2.9t-16nw1.armv4l.rpm 

Rod Stewart wrote:

>Essentially once portmap starts, the first select() call is really
>screwed up.  It looks something like this with strace:
>
>	select(1048576, [4 5 1026 1028 1032 1033
>the only thing is the numbers keep increasing to something similar to 
>45432, until it dies.. :)

I checked a fix for this into the 2.2 branch of the CVS tree.  You might 
like to make sure that it works for you.

p.

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Date: 17 Oct 1999 18:26:54 GMT
From: Rod Stewart <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Is there a better/newer util-linux than util-linux-2.9t-16nw1.armv4l.rpm

Philip Blundell <[email-masked]> wrote:
> Rod Stewart wrote:

>>Essentially once portmap starts, the first select() call is really
>>screwed up.  It looks something like this with strace:
>>
>>	select(1048576, [4 5 1026 1028 1032 1033
>>the only thing is the numbers keep increasing to something similar to 
>>45432, until it dies.. :)

> I checked a fix for this into the 2.2 branch of the CVS tree.  You might 
> like to make sure that it works for you.

Yup fixes it.  Grabbed it Friday before leaving work.  portmap no
longer crashes randomly..  (Found out it works much better if I apply
the correct kernel patch.  The first one I used was a couple of days
old. :))

Thanks,
- -Rms

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:23:53 -0400
From: Jeremy Radlow <[email-masked]>
Subject: Can't get NetRom 2.0.6 to boot with any image

I have a DM w/ 64MB RAM, 2GB HDD, NetRom 2.0.6.  Today I
tried to get it working.  I decided to install dm-2.12 from
ftp.netwinder.org.  I put the root partition on partition #2,
e2fsck'd partition #1, mkswap'd partition #3, edited the
netwinder's /etc/fstab appropriately, and booted from
/dev/hda2.  About halfway through what appeared to be a
successful boot, I got this:

   /dev/hda1 : wrong fs type, bad superblock, or...

and then all operations involving /dev/hda1 (the location
of /home) failed.  Shortly afterwards I got a screenful of
this:

   init: memory violation at pc=0x00000000, lr=0x0200de78

and had to reboot.  I tried reinstalling the image, got the
same results.  I have also tried just editing the kernel to
boot from /dev/hda1, and got a different kind of lockup.
I also tried public betas 2 and 3, but they lock up before the
kernel can display any messages at all.

Any hints?

- - Jeremy

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