Subject: devel-digest V2 #230
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devel-digest       Thursday, September 23 1999       Volume 02 : Number 230

In this issue:

    Re: rsync on netwinder.org
    Re: rsync on netwinder.org
    Re: rsync on netwinder.org
    xserver query best size
    egcs/cpp mismatch in andrewm's directory?
    ssh rpms for andrewm's stuff
    Re: ssh rpms for andrewm's stuff
    Re: egcs/cpp mismatch in andrewm's directory?
    =?iso-8859-1?Q?=DCpgraded?= from WS to DM but no docs.
    Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=DCpgraded?= from WS to DM but no docs.
    DM Build 15 Public Release 2 Now Available
    Re: DM Build 15 Public Release 2 Now Available
    PATCH: xserver query best size
    Re: Unable to access Serial Interface
    Re: PATCH: xserver query best size
    Article in ComputerWorld Canada
    shadowsuit
    Re: shadowsuit
    Is there a better/newer util-linux than util-linux-2.9t-16nw1.armv4l.rpm
    Re: shadowsuit
    Re: Is there a better/newer util-linux than  util-linux-2.9t-16nw1.armv4l.rpm
    Re: Is there a better/newer util-linux than util-linux-2.9t-16nw1.armv4l.rpm
    Re: Is there a better/newer util-linux than  util-linux-2.9t-16nw1.armv4l.rpm
    Re: Is there a better/newer util-linux than util-linux-2.9t-16nw1.armv4l.rpm

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:15:46 -0400
From: "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: rsync on netwinder.org

[email-masked] wrote:
> skipping directory users/a/andrewm/redhat
> client: nothing to do
> 
> So...any ideas?

Try "man rsync", particularly the "USAGE" section.

You didn't specify a file name, so there is "nothing to do".

If you want the entire directory, add "-a" (for archive) to that.
To keep a mirror, add "--delete" to remove files not in the source,
and "--force" to remove dirs.

Other useful options: -v --stats --progress

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Date: 16 Sep 1999 19:07:16 GMT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: rsync on netwinder.org

> From:  "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
> Date:  Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:15:46 -0400
>
> [email-masked] wrote:
> > skipping directory users/a/andrewm/redhat
> > client: nothing to do
> > 
> > So...any ideas?
> 
> Try "man rsync", particularly the "USAGE" section.
> 
> You didn't specify a file name, so there is "nothing to do".
> 
> If you want the entire directory, add "-a" (for archive) to that.
> To keep a mirror, add "--delete" to remove files not in the source,
> and "--force" to remove dirs.
> 
> Other useful options: -v --stats --progress

Actually, I had also tried this:

% rsync -vva netwinder.org::ftp/users/a/andrewm/redhat/RPMS/* .
unexpected EOF in read_timeout

Chris

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Date: 16 Sep 1999 22:07:42 GMT
From: Rod Stewart <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: rsync on netwinder.org

[email-masked] wrote:

> % rsync -vva netwinder.org::ftp/users/a/andrewm/redhat/RPMS/* .
> unexpected EOF in read_timeout

"*" is a shell expanded variable...  It is not passed into rsync.

Just a note: /users/a/andrewm/redhat/RPMS/ is a very, very big
directory...  I doubt very much you want to mirror the whole thing..

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Date: 20 Sep 1999 18:48:48 -0400
From: Sean MacLennan <[email-masked]>
Subject: xserver query best size

When running XEmacs, it complains that a 16x16 cursor is too big for
the xserver. It looks like IGSQueryBestSize uses igsCursorWidth and
igsCursorHeight to return the "best size". These variables seem to be
only set in IGSRealizeCursor, which I believe is incorrect. This will
set the "best size" as the size of the last cursor created. Does
anyone now why it does this?

A comment says the IGSRealizeCursor is based on ark/ark_cursor, but
arc_cursor does not do this. In fact, it seems to hardcode the size to
32x32.

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Date: 20 Sep 1999 23:29:44 GMT
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Subject: egcs/cpp mismatch in andrewm's directory?

I'm trying to piece together a useful distribution based on andrewm's stuff 
and seem to have found a mismatch.

[root@highdive armv4l]# rpm -U egcs-1.1.2-13.armv4l.rpm 
error: failed dependencies:
        cpp = 1.1.2 is needed by egcs-1.1.2-13

however, the version of cpp is:

cpp-2.95.1-1nw1.armv4l.rpm

Chris

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Date: 20 Sep 1999 23:36:17 GMT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: ssh rpms for andrewm's stuff

Using the ssh executable in ssh-1.2.26-4i.titan.a.armv4l.rpm complains that I 
should relink the executable.

(BTW, just to clarify, I'm not complaining, I'm just telling you this in case 
it's not on your list.)

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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 21:30:16 -0400
From: Kevin Driedger <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: ssh rpms for andrewm's stuff

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If I recall correctly, titan and the rebel.com distributions use different
versioning schemes for glibc therefore you cannot use a title rpm on a rebel.com
machine.

Kevin

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> Using the ssh executable in ssh-1.2.26-4i.titan.a.armv4l.rpm complains that I
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>
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Date: 21 Sep 1999 01:30:27 GMT
From: Rod Stewart <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: egcs/cpp mismatch in andrewm's directory?

[email-masked] wrote:

> [root@highdive armv4l]# rpm -U egcs-1.1.2-13.armv4l.rpm 
> error: failed dependencies:
>         cpp = 1.1.2 is needed by egcs-1.1.2-13

> however, the version of cpp is:

> cpp-2.95.1-1nw1.armv4l.rpm

Use gcc-2.95...  egcs is on its way out the door...  EGCS' days are
number.. :)  You should be able to find a copy in
ftp.netwinder.org/users/s/scottb/redhat/RPMS (should be close to the
correct path).

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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 22:33:43 -0700
From: gfb <[email-masked]>
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=DCpgraded?= from WS to DM but no docs.

I received my NetWinder upgraded from WS to DM build 12 but no docs.
What is the default root password ?

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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 08:21:14 -0400
From: Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=DCpgraded?= from WS to DM but no docs.

gfb wrote:
> 
> I received my NetWinder upgraded from WS to DM build 12 but no docs.
> What is the default root password ?

vnc

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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:30:01 -0400
From: Craig Ross <[email-masked]>
Subject: DM Build 15 Public Release 2 Now Available

Following an interesting week of events, our most recent disk image is
now available for public download.  As I mentioned in a previous post,
it is based on the 2.2. kernel.  Just to let you know, we are currently
using this disk image for our own development, but are not responsible
for its stability :)  It is available from
ftp://netwinder.org/pub/netwinder/images.

C.

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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 13:42:23 -0400
From: Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: DM Build 15 Public Release 2 Now Available

Slight correction, folks.  The dm-15 image can be found at
ftp://netwinder.org/pub/unofficial/ and not in the /pub/netwinder area. 
Just to keep it clear that this image is not yet meant for consumption
by general NetWinder users.  We will continue to put only tested
"official" packages in the /pub/netwinder area.

- -Ralph

Craig Ross wrote:
> 
> Following an interesting week of events, our most recent disk image is
> now available for public download.  As I mentioned in a previous post,
> it is based on the 2.2. kernel.  Just to let you know, we are currently
> using this disk image for our own development, but are not responsible
> for its stability :)  It is available from
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Date: 22 Sep 1999 00:01:06 -0400
From: Sean MacLennan <[email-masked]>
Subject: PATCH: xserver query best size

I don't know if this is the correct place to post a patch, but here
goes. I am posting the entire patch since it is very small.

I believe this is the correct patch for the IGSQueryBestSize
problem. Instead of using the last size, it uses the maximum size
supported by the chip (64x64). Note: This is assumed by looking at the
software in igs_cursor.c, I have no knowledge of the actual chip.

The patch is rooted from xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86 since the
xfree86.tar.gz file I downloaded from netwinder.org was rooted there.

  Sean

- --------- patch starts here
- --- vga256/drivers/igs/igs_cursor.c.orig	Tue Sep 21 23:33:45 1999
+++ vga256/drivers/igs/igs_cursor.c	Tue Sep 21 23:41:32 1999
@@ -191,7 +191,10 @@
     outb(EXTDATA, 0x00);
     outb(EXTINDEX, 0x56);  /* Sprite Control */
     outb(EXTDATA, inb(EXTDATA) | 0x02);
- -
+
+    igsCursorWidth  = IGS_MAX_CURS;
+    igsCursorHeight = IGS_MAX_CURS;
+
     return TRUE;
 }

@@ -259,8 +262,7 @@
     pServSrc = (unsigned char *)bits->source;
     pServMsk = (unsigned char *)bits->mask;

- -    igsCursorWidth = bits->width;
- -    igsCursorHeight = h = bits->height;
+    h = bits->height;

     if (h > IGS_MAX_CURS)
 	h = IGS_MAX_CURS;
- --------- patch ends here

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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:51:29 -0400
From: [email-masked] (Raul Cuza)
Subject: Re: Unable to access Serial Interface

I'm new to Linux and the NetWinder and I have had trouble setting up a ppp
connection at home. Unfortunately that is where my NetWinder is right now,
so I can't test whether the serial module is installed.

I haven't been able to find a NetWinder PPP-HowTo. Are these the only
steps that need to be done?

   make sure slhc.o and ppp.o are installed: insmod slhc; insmod ppp
      (ref:
http://starship.skyport.net/crew/jtittsler/netwinder/faq.cgi?query=PPP&querytype=simple&casefold=yes&req=search)

   make sure the serial interface is installed: insmod serial
      (ref: this thread)

I'm not sure what setserial and statserial do (and I don't have the man
pages here at work). Will I need to use them to set up the hardware for
PPP?

Do I need to do anything so that boot process doesn't interfere with my
external modem on boot up? During booting the lights flash on my modem and
then all the lights go off when the login prompt comes up.

Thank you in advance, Raul.

FYI: I have a US Robotics V.90/x2 external modem, and I am running 2.0.35
build 98 Dec ?? with NetTrom 2.0.4 (This last one is from memory.)

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> That fixed it.  Thank you.
> 
> Steven
> 
> Philipp Grau wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:14:11 -0700, Steven Ng wrote:
> > >I have been trying to configure my serial interface /dev/cua0 using
> > >setserial.  setserial statserial both return operation not supported by
> > >device.  I also attempted to do this to dev/cua1-3 also.  Is there
something
> > >I need to do to get the serial interface up and running before I can access
> > >it with setserial, or do I have a potential hardware problem?
> >
> > Try:
> >
> > insmod serial
> >
> > It loos like you are missing serial support in the kernel,
> > so load the apropiate module.
> >
> > \bye
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:18:19 -0400
From: "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: PATCH: xserver query best size

Sean MacLennan wrote:
> I don't know if this is the correct place to post a patch, but here
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Thanks.  I'll look into integrating it.  I'm currently working on the
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 13:21:28 -0400
From: Kevin Driedger <[email-masked]>
Subject: Article in ComputerWorld Canada

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The Netwinder has been covered in the Sept 24, 1999 ComputerWorld Canada
rag, "Rebel.com helps small businesses get connected."  The article is
not online yet but I would guess soon (at: http://www.lti.on.ca).

They describe the basic functionality and they rave about it with some
quotes from the Yankee Group and International Data Corp.

They say that this is a first generation thin client and it needs to get
beyond NAT firewalls in order to go above serving 50 clients.  Are we
working on this?

]{evin.

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 11:51:56 +0800
From: Nenita Manaois <[email-masked]>
Subject: shadowsuit

hi all!

i got a source for the shadowsuite library (i downloaded it somewhere) and
installed it in the netwinder (sorry folks, it was my first time to work
on redhat then and i didnt know that i shld have just "pwconv" my passwd
file to make it work).  however, im having problems now because when i add
users using the "web-based admin tool", the users are added in the passwd
file but not in the shadow file.  same thing when deleting users.  the
shadow file seemed to be unchanged.

dont know if this is the right group to post this stuff but i hope
somebody could help me out there.

thanks,

nenita

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:21:34 -0400
From: Ralph Siemsen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: shadowsuit

Currently the WS, GS, and OS do not support shadow passwords directly. 
Support for this is planned for the OfficeServer, but as things stand
right now, a number of other things will break if the switch-over is
made.  At this time the official recommendation is not to use shadow
passwords if you want to use the web-based admin tools on the WS/GS/OS.
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Date: 23 Sep 1999 14:39:26 GMT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Is there a better/newer util-linux than util-linux-2.9t-16nw1.armv4l.rpm

util-linux-2.9t-16nw1.armv4l.rpm seems to have a few problems:

1) it's missing /bin/login (which is in util-linux on both my x86 box and my 
ppc box).

2) it conflicts with textutils-1.22m-1.armv4l.rpm (they both include tsort).

Chris

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 11:32:50 -0400
From: Matthew Keller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: shadowsuit

Ralph Siemsen wrote:
> 
> Currently the WS, GS, and OS do not support shadow passwords directly.
> Support for this is planned for the OfficeServer, but as things stand
> right now, a number of other things will break if the switch-over is
> made.  At this time the official recommendation is not to use shadow
> passwords if you want to use the web-based admin tools on the WS/GS/OS.
> --
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	In other words, type 'pwunconv' at your earliest convenience. :)

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 12:08:31 -0400
From: "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Is there a better/newer util-linux than  util-linux-2.9t-16nw1.armv4l.rpm

[email-masked] wrote:
> util-linux-2.9t-16nw1.armv4l.rpm seems to have a few problems:
> 
> 1) it's missing /bin/login (which is in util-linux on both my x86 box and my
> ppc box).
> 2) it conflicts with textutils-1.22m-1.armv4l.rpm (they both include tsort).

Try util-linux-2.9w-24_nw1

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Date: 23 Sep 1999 17:36:46 GMT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Is there a better/newer util-linux than util-linux-2.9t-16nw1.armv4l.rpm

> From:  "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
> Date:  Thu, 23 Sep 1999 12:08:31 -0400
>
> [email-masked] wrote:
> > util-linux-2.9t-16nw1.armv4l.rpm seems to have a few problems:
> > 
> > 1) it's missing /bin/login (which is in util-linux on both my x86 box and
>  my
> > ppc box).
> > 2) it conflicts with textutils-1.22m-1.armv4l.rpm (they both include tsor
> t).
> 
> Try util-linux-2.9w-24_nw1

# rpm -U util-linux-2.9w-24_nw1.armv4l.rpm 
error: failed dependencies:
        kernel >= 2.2.12-7 is needed by util-linux-2.9w-24_nw1

So, where do I find kernel >= 2.2.12-7?  It doesn't appear to be in your RPMS 
directory.

Chris

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:53:57 -0400
From: "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Is there a better/newer util-linux than  util-linux-2.9t-16nw1.armv4l.rpm

[email-masked] wrote:
> > Try util-linux-2.9w-24_nw1
> 
> # rpm -U util-linux-2.9w-24_nw1.armv4l.rpm
> error: failed dependencies:
>         kernel >= 2.2.12-7 is needed by util-linux-2.9w-24_nw1
> 
> So, where do I find kernel >= 2.2.12-7?  It doesn't appear to be in your RPMS
> directory.

Check either the kernel directory or Ralph's home directory.

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Date: 23 Sep 1999 18:43:27 GMT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Is there a better/newer util-linux than util-linux-2.9t-16nw1.armv4l.rpm

> From:  "Andrew E. Mileski" <[email-masked]>
> Date:  Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:53:57 -0400
>
> [email-masked] wrote:
> > > Try util-linux-2.9w-24_nw1
> > 
> > # rpm -U util-linux-2.9w-24_nw1.armv4l.rpm
> > error: failed dependencies:
> >         kernel >= 2.2.12-7 is needed by util-linux-2.9w-24_nw1
> > 
> > So, where do I find kernel >= 2.2.12-7?  It doesn't appear to be in your 
> RPMS
> > directory.
> 
> Check either the kernel directory or Ralph's home directory.

One step forward, two steps backwards.  I found and installed 
kernel-2.2.12-990907.armv4l.rpm and kernel-headers-2.2.12-990907.armv4l.rpm; 
now my portmapper doesn't work (portmap-4.0-17).

Chris

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